Kanzenshuu

I would imagine Toriyama would have let him transform if he could.

Isn't Cold being this strong already an insult? The daiz say Cold is weaker than Freeza.

FPSSJ Goku(Cell Games) vs East Kaioshin. I tend to see Kaioshin get shit on, but I think he's stronger than most people think. How do you think he fares?

There's still Ssj2 to consider if Bardock gets angry enough.

Kaioken x4 Kamehameha. There was no Gyrikku Ho defending him when he was hit with that thing so it was 32,000 on 18,000. A 77% difference.

Stuff like Raditz and Nappa's BPs are small potatoes. It's not the end of the world they don't match up with other gaps. Honestly though, even the given numbers in the manga present gap issues. Vegeta was hit with an attack 77% stronger than he was, and he lived with a few scratches.

It has Japanese AND English audio with the best quality we've received. Overrated? No. Overpriced? Oh hell yes.

I like the American soundtrack movies 4, 5, 8, and 10.

In all honesty until I visited Kanzenshuu I had never met anyone who thought Goku was not the strongest... Where have you been? It's usually a pretty solid consensus that Ultimate Gohan is stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Yeah you'll have those people that say otherwise, but there a minority based on what ...

Goku would win. He was a good deal stronger at the time, and he wouldn't lose to make Vegeta happy.

I just assume it's around 1,000 times stronger than SSJ3. That's not had to believe seeing as how it's a god form.

I have to agree with everyone else Freezamite. I realize you're just trying to find some sense of coherency, but this is Dragon Ball. It's not always coherent.