Kanzenshuu

He was. But even after seeing everything Goku and Hit did, he still felt comfortable in provoking Goku to fight him if he desires.

Which CAN be explained by goku being a hot mess at the time.
Or the fact that goku still thinks he's no match for him, could have been playing off that.
Or he really ...

The better question is how can Whis think Goku and Vegeta Fukkatsu no F time can together beat Beerus when Kaiouken Goku cannot.

Well, that Whis line was omitted in Super. Instead, we have Goku admitting that they can't fight Beers together because he's too strong.

We can't take anything at ...

I don't get why people are so attached to the 6/10/15 scale. Maybe for the same reason they're attached to the old Daizenshuu.

Unlike the guide books. It came straight from Akira during the release of the movies.
And in the movie itself whis states in the end Beerus used 70% power. Which would ...

Is it possible that Kaio-ken doesn't multiply everything equally when stressed to that level? Maybe Goku's speed was increased a lot but his strength/power/stamina stayed roughly the same. I say this because Hit was unable to get stronger throughout the match and only improved by extending the ...

You will not find any sense in DBS. There really is no sense to be had.
It has even more contradictions when GT did.
One moment we have rage ssj2 vegeta making Beerus use 10% power, and SSJG goku using even more than that. And now we have gone to a even more highly trained goku with a more ...

I think there is no anything relate the power of SSJG (red hair) with SSJB (blue hair) so we can't say Goku could beat Beerus now, even with Kaio-ken 10x


Not according to statements in episode 24.


And then we get people like the guy on the linked comment here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v ...

That was never stated in the film itself. It was a comment made by Akira Toriyama

Whis stated along the lines near the end of the movie to beerus that it had been a long time since he'd seen Beerus use around 70% of his power.
Which basically lines right up with what Akira stated.

DBS is just ...