I have a different take. Something I call the “Grade Zero” theory.
There’s a problem with Grade 1 and Grade 4 both being x50: what about Grade 2? It doesn’t have the stamina of Grade 4, but it otherwise doesn’t seem to have problems in usage. There’s no speed penalty and Vegeta loses to Cell ...
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- Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:59 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: SSJ Grade 2: Faster or Slower?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 950
- Sun May 30, 2021 6:44 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: It's time for Goku and Vegeta to learn how to breathe in space
- Replies: 23
- Views: 7642
Re: It's time for Goku and Vegeta to learn how to breathe in space
Yes, they have long, long, long since needed this! Requiring a nearby planet for air has been done again (Frieza nuking Namek to finish Goku) and again (Vegeta dying to Frieza destroying Earth before Whis's mulligan), and I think it's long been exhausted as a plot device. The vaunted heights of God ...
- Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:29 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?
- Replies: 55
- Views: 7449
Re: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?
And no, 18 definitely wasn't stronger than ssj Goten and trunks. Not in the slightest. They scare her by shooting a suppressed SUPPRESSED ssj blast, implying that ssj kids>>18
I think that's the wrong conclusion to draw from that. Despite the tough persona she puts on, she has a husband and ...
I think that's the wrong conclusion to draw from that. Despite the tough persona she puts on, she has a husband and ...
- Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:52 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?
- Replies: 55
- Views: 7449
Re: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?
My perspective is that we should go off of Buuhan's expectations.
Boohan's estimations for Goku & Vegeta's fusion was wildly inaccurate though. As seen in the anime, even Base Vegetto was stronger than Boohan. In M12, SSJ Gogeta pretty easily overpowered & destroyed Janemba, a Boohan-tier foe ...
- Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:47 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?
- Replies: 55
- Views: 7449
Re: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?
My perspective is that we should go off of Buuhan's expectations. He knows how powerful the SSJ3 transformation is, and he knows how powerful the Fusion technique made the boys. He has no reason to expect the Potara Fusion to be different than what he already knows (either weaker or stronger), so he ...
- Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:32 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: OK, before it is revealed, what do you think Vegeta's Yardrat tehnique will actually be?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2293
Re: OK, before it is revealed, what do you think Vegeta's Yardrat tehnique will actually be?
I think it'll be an extension of the Instant Transmission, not just teleporting himself to somewhere else but teleporting something from somewhere else to where he is.
Moro's biggest advantage is that he can absorb energy from a planet and just include energy from nonmagical beings without fail ...
Moro's biggest advantage is that he can absorb energy from a planet and just include energy from nonmagical beings without fail ...
- Sun May 26, 2019 1:00 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: What Happens To A Fighter's Ki After They Die?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1437
Re: What Happens To A Fighter's Ki After They Die?
I'm inclined to think it stays with the user's body (depending of course on the user keeping his or her body in the first place) in both directions. We have the aforementioned example of Raditz's brief fight with Enma getting respect from Goku. Although Frieza was bound in Earth's Hell, he could ...
- Wed May 08, 2019 9:03 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Interesting or funny pictures thread
- Replies: 9954
- Views: 1772481
Re: Interesting or funny pictures thread
classic ..
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- Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:21 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
- Replies: 94
- Views: 28029
Re: Goku saying Vegeta wants to get Gohan and Gotenks to fight
Another thing to note is that characters come back to life in the same state as their dead body. For example, Vegeta fought Kid Buu with a dead body and got beat up and fatigued. After he was restored to life, he was still beat up and fatigued, even before Kid Buu pummeled him further.
It then ...
It then ...
- Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:36 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: What Can Or Might Be Vegeta's Next Transformation?
- Replies: 40
- Views: 5609
Re: What Can Or Might Be Vegeta's Next Transformation?
Both the manga and anime hinted at Vegeta doing his own thing which will be great if that's what Toriyama wants to do. If I remember correctly, during the fight with Kid Buu, Vegeta called Ssj3 useless because it was unreliable which resulted in him never using it, despite being able to. UI is ...
- Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:47 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: Very faithful Faulconer styled compositions and remakes
- Replies: 3
- Views: 3184
Re: Very faithful Faulconer styled compositions and remakes
What's the audio equivalent of "on-model"? Because this is that. Thank you for bringing attention to this. I wonder if he's done any themes for Super?
- Sun Feb 17, 2019 2:07 am
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: McDonalds vs Burger King (DBZ style) animation
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3798
Re: McDonalds vs Burger King (DBZ style) animation
I know! I kept expecting a Big Mac with bacon.Gokitalo wrote:Ha, well done! Ronald's unusual method of powering up around 5:30 definitely threw me for a loop!
- Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:45 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Did Gogeta and Broly create a pocket dimension?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 6725
Re: Did Gogeta and Broly create a pocket dimension?
Thinking about it further, I think that if this is anything, it's related to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Specifically, the way Buu and Gotenks got out. It has a specific door, but when they screamed a hole in space, they came out near where the actual door was rather than at the door. Arguably, if ...
- Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:39 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Did Gogeta and Broly create a pocket dimension?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 6725
Re: Did Gogeta and Broly create a pocket dimension?
Thinking about it further, I think that if this is anything, it's related to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Specifically, the way Buu and Gotenks got out. It has a specific door, but when they screamed a hole in space, they came out near where the actual door was rather than at the door. Arguably, if ...
- Mon Jan 21, 2019 10:49 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Did Gogeta and Broly create a pocket dimension?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 6725
Re: Did Gogeta and Broly create a pocket dimension?
Agreed, this wasn't just a neato visual effect but an in-universe phenomenon that their clash of powers created. Personally, I thought they had briefly visited the Into the Spider-verse movie.
- Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:08 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6220
Re: Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God
In my post right above yours where I'm responding to PFM18, I describe a discrepancy involving Goku and Gohan that is solved by assuming a normal Base and one using God Ki (or "normal Ki but way more powerful due to having adapted to SSG", since I consider that to be a distinction without a ...
- Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:29 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6220
Re: Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God
More like people just misinterpreted what the original promo material meant. Could also be that Toei hadn't decided exactly how they'd handle the Saiyans' new forms but now the previous material has been overwritten. You can still look at that old material and view it as I have described.
When ...
- Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:31 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6220
Re: Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God
Well Saiyan Beyond God wasn't a thing in the RoF arc either. Everyone can sense Goku when he is fighting Freeza, and then when he went SSB they explicitly comment about how they could no longer sense him. So it's clear in the scene that he wasnt using God Ki prior to turning SSB, so this doesn't ...
- Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:58 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6220
Re: Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God
Hello everyone! As many of us know, the phrase "Saiyan Beyond God" elicits controversy and annoyance out of anyone who reads it.
Things changed again. Now Goku and Vegeta have Base, the Yellow-haired forms, the Red-haired form, and the Blue-haired form. But where did the strong second base go? It ...
Things changed again. Now Goku and Vegeta have Base, the Yellow-haired forms, the Red-haired form, and the Blue-haired form. But where did the strong second base go? It ...
- Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:37 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God
- Replies: 26
- Views: 6220
Re: Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God
My theory is that Goku and Vegeta can theoretically still access that same base form, but instead turn into SSG because, in-universe, it gives them a slight boost in speed because of less muscle mass or because is more efficient to transform than to continuously power up with God ki inside their ...