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by lord turbo
Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Goku is a better martial artist in the 23rd Budokai and he is a better martial artist in DBS chapter 39. Also, to think that Roshi lived for over 200 years or something and has had less fights than Goku is ridiculous. I disagree about him being a better MA post 23rd Budokai, also, you're merely jus...
by lord turbo
Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:34 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2083137

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Chapter 40 was basically everything I didn't like about the anime's episodes 122 to 129 condensed into 45 pages. Some random notes/thoughts on the chapter: - I've always been one of the people that really liked SSJB Evolution, not for its aesthetic, but more so for what it represented for Vegeta's ...
by lord turbo
Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2083137

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

@lord turbo Martial arts skill =/= Martial arts experience Just because Goku is better than Roshi at fighting doesn't mean he automatically knows all of the same techniques. Do you really think Goku could do hypnosis at a moments notice? Goku's martial arts skills and experiences is stated (By Rosh...
by lord turbo
Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2083137

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Again, you're missing the point entirely. The point is that Roshi is over 300 years old and has only been practicing martial arts. And yet Goku surpasses Roshi's master arts experience and knowledge in 1/50th that time. The manga went out of its way to remind you all of the direct quotes from Goku'...
by lord turbo
Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:29 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2083137

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

You expect a fighter to master something in three days which took Roshi in three years? You mean a character consistently stated and shown to have unnatural genius talent as a fighter? The same one that learns or master techniques that take others years to do by comparison by seeing said move done ...
by lord turbo
Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2083137

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Toriyama's writing wasn't poor. It's just poorly interpreted by fans. Dragon Ball was founded on the core principle of an adventure martial arts story based on Journey to the West. As I said previously, Goku learned about minimizing unnecessary movements from trying to catch Korin. What you said ch...
by lord turbo
Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2083137

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Actually, the concept of power levels wasn't even introduced until DBZ because of scouters. Then guidebooks went back and told us the power levels of characters during Dragon Ball. Power levels as in tiers/ranks/classes, not power levels as in numbers. The original Dragon Ball was about martial art...
by lord turbo
Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2083137

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I read the full translated chapter on Viz comics. My final verdict - I liked it. It's a throwback to all the masters that have ever trained Goku. I've been saying since Day 1, that many things that Mr. Popo taught Goku since DB are being relevant now like not wasting unnecessary movements. They did...
by lord turbo
Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30457
Views: 1484673

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

SS Caulifla scales to SS Cabba who's inferior to SS Vegeta who's inferior to Buu Saga SS Goku . What? Why? I'm sorry if this sounds offensive but this actually sounds stupid. When comparing their direct weight training. Base Goku lifted well over 1,000 tons in the anime so the manga was pretty odd ...
by lord turbo
Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30457
Views: 1484673

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think it was pretty clear it was supposed to be the same rage boost. Vegeta was angry and attacked, Krillin was surprised at that power. Vegeta trains on Earth and Krillin should be able to feel his power when he goes ssj2. Baseless speculation, Kuririn being surprised at Vegeta's power =/= power...
by lord turbo
Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:36 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2083137

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Vegeta didn't know Frieza could even transform and he was one of Frieza's top guys. Yes... beforr Namek, after Namek everyone appears to be aware of Freeza's final form, doesn't seem like a secret anymore. And I doubt Tarble asked the Namekians "Hey what was Frieza's power level" not that they woul...
by lord turbo
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30457
Views: 1484673

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Um maybe you should actually go back and read the manga again before calling someone a liar? The whole my Bulma scene happened and Krillin asked "since when was Vegeta this strong?" indicating he got the rage boost. I did, can you not read? I asked where was it stated Vegeta's power there was tempo...
by lord turbo
Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2083137

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I'm pretty sure only the top people like Sorbet would know things like that. Tarble was on a planet exiled and should know nothing of Frieza's forms. And Goku said a Frieza level opponent would be good for the kids, so he was probably thinking about their ssj forms, but since Abo and Cado were only...
by lord turbo
Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:45 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30457
Views: 1484673

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Vegeta did get the rage boost in the manga against Beerus just like the movie and anime. I'm saying it may have been permanent as there is no other way ssj2 Vegeta would ever be above ssj3 Goku. No, he did not, don't lie, no such thing happened in the manga. You say there is no other way for him to...
by lord turbo
Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30457
Views: 1484673

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

But Goku and Vegeta have always been equals, so either Vegeta kept his rage ssj2 boost he had against Beerus or Goku was holding back on Trunks, as there is no logical reason besides those for ssj2 Vegeta to be stronger than ssj3 Goku. All forms except SS2 as clearly shown during the Zamasu arc and...
by lord turbo
Sat Jul 07, 2018 3:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2083137

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

That's true, but does seem like distance plays at least a bit of a factor as Goku has flat out said people are too far to sense before, and in RoF they had to go full power for Goku to sense them, meaning amount of power is affected by distance. Fair enough, however, the distance is the same for Ki...
by lord turbo
Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:35 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30457
Views: 1484673

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I forgot about Goku saying that about Trunks, but the fact Trunks powered up equivalent to ssj3 after that means he is probably like 5x stronger than ssj3 Gohan was, and he was weaker than ssj Black who was weaker than ssj2 Vegeta. It just means Future Trunks SS2 boost is far greater than Goku's SS...
by lord turbo
Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:28 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2083137

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Distance changes how much you feel someone's power. Only ssj3 Goku was felt on the world of the Kais. Does it? Goku sensed King Kai's ki from Earth just fine, yet are you trying to claim he would have trouble sensing Super Perfect Cell (despite sensing he was using a full power Kamehameha) or SS2 K...
by lord turbo
Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30521
Views: 2083137

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Well Goku was dead when it was super perfect Cell, and Super perfect Cell never actually fought, he really only used one kamehameha. And if I remember correctly what made Goku say Dabura may be more dangerous than he thought was because of his magic, not that he had a higher power level than he ini...
by lord turbo
Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:58 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30457
Views: 1484673

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