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- Sun May 19, 2024 7:39 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: goku won the fight against cell, cell surviving is a plot hole and the english dub is to blame.
- Replies: 14
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Re: goku won the fight against cell, cell surviving is a plot hole and the english dub is to blame.
Could be off-base here, but I've always reconciled this topic as such: Cell can regenerate from virtually any damage, so long as any part of his physical body remains intact(which would explain how he survived Goku's IT-Kamehameha.) However, he can also survive complete obliteration of his entire ph...
- Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:13 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
- Views: 3986271
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
The above discussion is interesting. As I interpret it, MUI simply allows the user's body to move/react independent of conscious thought in battle situations. It doesn't have some intrinsic variable that *only* allows the user to dodge/avoid incoming attacks -- it is offensive/physical, just as much...
- Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:13 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6098
Re: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
Circular as this discussion has become, you still seem to be confused as to what I am actually saying here... So to reiterate once again: Goku was indeed pushing Gohan to dig deep and utilize all of his power earlier in the beam-struggle(I never argued otherwise.) The point, however, is that Gohan n...
- Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:53 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: If your post number were your battle power
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1218
Re: If your post number were your battle power
At the time of writing this, I have a post count of 664. -With KKx20, I'd max out at just over 13,000. So I could easily trounce Nappa, but would get swatted by Saiyan saga Vegeta. -With a SS1 multiplier, I'd be at roughly 33,000. So I'd beat Saiyan saga Vegeta, Kiwi, Dodoria, and probably transform...
- Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:58 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6098
Re: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
1. We have prior dialogue from Son Goku that he did not account for Vegeta's blast in helping Gohan win. As Goku clearly says early in the beam struggle that if Gohan cuts loose like cell, he can win. Once more: Vegeta's blast clearly distracted Cell, and took his focus entirely away from the beam-...
- Tue Oct 17, 2023 11:34 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6098
Re: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
We saw Super perfect cell tank blast from an enraged vegeta when he SSJ 2nd grade and enraged. Correct. The difference, however, is that Cell saw Vegeta coming in that instance, and was fully prepared/ready: https://i.ibb.co/Sc1rnyC/image.jpg ...So of course his attacks were effectively no-sold, gi...
- Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:10 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6098
Re: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
Except that wasn't the case. Goku throughout the entire fight was telling gohan to unleash his full power. He was not only telling gohan to do so at the moment vegeta struck cell. It was indeed the case. Goku was gently pushing Gohan into utilizing his full power against Cell throughout the beam-st...
- Sun Oct 15, 2023 7:54 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6098
Re: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
How does cell being momentarily distracted become a factor? Because it was then...and only then...that Gohan unleashed his full power. And Goku explicitly prompted him to do so in that moment(ie. "NOW!!!"), because he also saw the brief opening in Cell's defense that was provided by Veget...
- Sun Oct 15, 2023 6:59 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6098
Re: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
That blast from vegeta makes no difference. Except... It did. Granted Vegeta's blast didn't harm/damage SPC, but it was obviously sufficient enough to distract Cell(because he was unprepared for the attack at the time), which subsequently provided Gohan with the precious moment he needed to dig dee...
- Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:32 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 6098
Re: Where would you rank Super perfect cell power relative to SSJ2 Gohan?
Cell being hit by an attack by base vegeta would not have caused any real change to the fight; it's like saying a mosquito biting you caused you to lose the fight. This isn't exactly accurate. Attacks from weaker characters can injure/distract stronger characters IF the latter is unprepared at the ...
- Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:56 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
- Replies: 37491
- Views: 3531319
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
His absorptions' power definitely stacks, since he could use both Piccolo's intelligence and Gotenks' power and moves as Bootenks, and later could use Gotenks' Ghost attack even after they defused as Boohan. He just takes the form of his strongest component. Boo can utilize certain traits from the ...
- Fri Sep 08, 2023 8:18 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
- Replies: 37491
- Views: 3531319
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Say that Buu's absorption ability is a thing again, and he absorbs literally all of the most powerful fighters, maybe even fused (Gogeta, Gotenks, Freeza, Hit, Jiren, ...), do you think this would he enough to challenge the higher deities such as the Great Priest? Boo's absorptions don't stack like...
- Mon May 15, 2023 8:45 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Was Perfect Cell's Buff Form Him Growing Stronger...Our Simply Growing In Size?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 450
Re: Was Perfect Cell's Buff Form Him Growing Stronger...Our Simply Growing In Size?
I dont think its the same technique. Cells buff form is a mirror of SSJ Grade 3, the form Trunks used unsuccessfully on Cell after Vegeta was unconscious. Greater strength but unusable due to the sacrifice to speed. This. Piccolo's power doesn't increase much in his giant form -- but Cell isn't Pic...
- Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:39 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Is Beerus the strongest character in all of shōnen fiction?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 908
Re: Is Beerus the strongest character in all of shōnen fiction?
In the anime, I'm pretty sure Goku implied that Arale's toon-force/gag powers don't work on deities like Beerus.Wrigglything wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 7:25 am I'm pretty sure Arale is stronger than Beerus, anyway. Or at least if gag manga powers truly ascend the levels of the gods
- Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:44 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
- Replies: 37491
- Views: 3531319
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
SSj Bardock vs. Piccolo after fusing with Nail for the first time Even if we scale base Bardock's PL to 20k(allowing for a potential/massive zenkai), his SS form would still only have a PL of 1m. 2nd form Freeza had a PL upwards of 1m, yet Nailccolo was contending just fine against him(even pressin...
- Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:44 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
- Replies: 11
- Views: 874
- Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:47 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
- Replies: 11
- Views: 874
Re: Someone today tried to argue DBZ Buuhan and up are stronger than Beerus
Whoever you're arguing with is either grossly ill-informed, or just flat-out trolling. In BoG, Goku himself confirmed that not even fusion would be enough to defeat Beerus(who was only using a micro-fraction of his power at the time.) IOW, Beerus(100%) >>>>>>>>>>>> Beerus(massively suppressed) > Veg...
- Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:49 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Is Jiren really still a big deal?
- Replies: 36
- Views: 3803
Re: Is Jiren really still a big deal?
In terms of manga continuity, Jiren's power(as of the ToP) is no longer all that relevant.
He has been surpassed by: Broly(presumably?), Moro, Goku, Vegeta, Granolah, Gas, Freeza... And I would assume Cell Max/Beast Gohan as well.
He has been surpassed by: Broly(presumably?), Moro, Goku, Vegeta, Granolah, Gas, Freeza... And I would assume Cell Max/Beast Gohan as well.
- Mon Jan 02, 2023 10:38 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Where do the dragons go?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1234
Re: Where do the dragons go?
Personally I have always just assumed that each Dragon Ball contains a sliver of the Dragon's cumulative essence. So when the Dragon Balls are all brought together, the Dragon's complete essence(ie. its physical manifestation) is released long enough to grant the wish. After the wish has been grante...
- Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:33 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
- Replies: 37491
- Views: 3531319
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
After the battle had concluded, didn't Piccolo also state that they couldn't have won if Gamma #2 hadn't used his kamikaze move to weaken Cell..? Potentially implying that not even Beast Gohan was stronger than a FP Cell Max?ZombieVito wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:22 pm Gohan says that they might have not been able to beat Cell Max.