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by ekrolo2
Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:53 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 33272
Views: 2553800

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Does anyone have the line where the manga is called promotional material?
by ekrolo2
Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:52 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super Saiyan Rosé - The Anime's interpretation (Compared to the Manga's)
Replies: 73
Views: 3058

Re: Super Saiyan Rosé - The Anime's interpretation (Compared to the Manga's)

Black is a God occupying Goku's body, so, if he went Super Saiyan he'd naturally use God ki resulting in an altered SS. This is in line with SSGSS being just SS with a different ki source/power running through it.
by ekrolo2
Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:48 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: When should the rematch Goku vs Beerus take place?
Replies: 21
Views: 895

Re: When should the rematch Goku vs Beerus take place?

Beerus has already been Roshi'd so there's no need for a rematch.
by ekrolo2
Tue May 26, 2020 11:44 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Should fans write for official products ?
Replies: 89
Views: 1246

Re: Should fans write for official products ?

This would apply to all IP. Technological advances, medical advances and entertainment/art advances--all advancements belong to the people. So if you created or worked hard for something, someone who just sits around has the right to share the profits with you ? It's easy to be entitled to the prof...
by ekrolo2
Tue May 26, 2020 11:08 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Should fans write for official products ?
Replies: 89
Views: 1246

Re: Should fans write for official products ?

Fans getting to officially write a product is is just like anything, it can be good, bad or anything in-between. Dragon Ball is pretty consistently shit at it save a few jokes from the Yamcha manga.
by ekrolo2
Fri May 08, 2020 8:53 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 3384

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

No one was talking about the appeal of the character, we're saying that a backstory for the important characters is essential for the story itself in general (this is storytelling 101). Nobody here ever said that a detailed backstory is needed for a character to liked. And yet Dragon Ball breaks th...
by ekrolo2
Mon May 04, 2020 9:49 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 3384

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

It negates the point that a backstory is essential. What is far more essential is what the character wants and what they are willing to do to get it. Precisely. Goku worked as a protagonist with a single sentence of backstory total for six arcs which amounts to nearly half of the original run conte...
by ekrolo2
Sun May 03, 2020 9:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Could All Of The ToP Contestants Take On The Hakaishin?
Replies: 39
Views: 1130

Re: Could All Of The ToP Contestants Take On The Hakaishin?

Jiren is the only one who can fight (and beat) them unless Goku gets UI out again. All the rest? Useless.
by ekrolo2
Sun May 03, 2020 9:27 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 3384

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

That doesn't negate the fact that Goku still got one at all before Z, simple or not. It negates the point that a backstory is essential. What is far more essential is what the character wants and what they are willing to do to get it. Precisely. Goku worked as a protagonist with a single sentence o...
by ekrolo2
Sat May 02, 2020 2:29 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 3384

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

I think backstory can be fun. I enjoy some flashbacks but backstory isn't nearly as essential as story. Freeza's backstory with the Saiyans and Vegeta is interesting, but that's not the primary reason he's so well remembered or why it feels so good when he gets what was coming to him. He spends mos...
by ekrolo2
Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:00 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 3384

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

I think backstory can be fun. I enjoy some flashbacks but backstory isn't nearly as essential as story. Freeza's backstory with the Saiyans and Vegeta is interesting, but that's not the primary reason he's so well remembered or why it feels so good when he gets what was coming to him. He spends mos...
by ekrolo2
Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:10 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 3384

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

Speaking of fantasy writers and how they dealt with world-building, Sapkowski is a fun example of one as he never drew or even thought about the geography of the Witcherverse' map. Sure, he'd say "Vizima is south of Kovir" and use statements like "it takes x amount days or weeks to get someplace" bu...
by ekrolo2
Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:38 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Lore
Replies: 172
Views: 3384

Re: Dragon Ball Lore

I'm with ABED, I have stopped caring hard about lore shit. I don't care about who makes the hyperdrive model of the Millenium Falcon or who forged the first Witcher medallion,... It's fluff, pure, and simple. Can I appreciate good lore if I care enough to check it out? Sure. But DBs 0 fucks given ap...
by ekrolo2
Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:39 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Things that grind your gears
Replies: 3823
Views: 237539

Re: Things that grind your gears

The fellation of Beerus, he's not the strongest character ever in the series and he's not even the strongest Hakaishin. Several characters are outright said or implied to be vastly above him but people persist in acting as though the likes of UI Goku can MAYBE give him an okay fight at best. Ridicul...
by ekrolo2
Thu Mar 05, 2020 6:47 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14403
Views: 1050422

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

This sounds like headcanon, where was it ever stated that Goku got his ideal of self-improvement from Grampa Gohan? Either way, Goku wouldnt have any interest in martial arts at all if he didnt have any natural urge for combat (which stems from his Saiyan genetics) And none of this has anything to ...
by ekrolo2
Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14403
Views: 1050422

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

This sounds like headcanon, where was it ever stated that Goku got his ideal of self-improvement from Grampa Gohan? Either way, Goku wouldnt have any interest in martial arts at all if he didnt have any natural urge for combat (which stems from his Saiyan genetics) And none of this has anything to ...
by ekrolo2
Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14403
Views: 1050422

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Jiren in both versions doesn't really interact with Goku until a 3rd into the arc. Hell, Jiren has no real connection to Goku at all, the only reason he even fights him is because Belmod told him to. Their fight is hardly the "heart" of the ToP story, and if it was then its a really weak one. Jiren...
by ekrolo2
Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14403
Views: 1050422

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

King Vegeta is the entire reason why the plot of the film even happens, so more focus on him makes sense narratively, especially with how this relates to Paragus since that's who he has his grudge with. "Vegeta doesn't give a shit about his parents", which is completely irrelevant to how much of a ...
by ekrolo2
Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:27 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14403
Views: 1050422

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Characters should appear for a purpose, to advance a theme or to play off of someone else or to serve as a good setup/punchline for a joke. They shouldn't be included because of some arbitrary fan quota of appearances. More Bardock, Gine and King Vegeta add nothing: their kids flat out tell us, the...
by ekrolo2
Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:55 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: How would you improve DB going forward?
Replies: 126
Views: 2712

Re: How would you improve DB going forward?

DB is already improved: its back to being dead.