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by Kagari
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Definitely don't agree. Going back to the Piccolo outfit just screams "Hey, remember the Cell arc?" instead of continuing Gohan's development of wanting to honor his father. But then, Toyotarou seems to struggle with writing Goku and Gohan's relationship to begin with so... To be fair, now that Gok...
by Kagari
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

And I also love how Gohan is using his Demon/Piccolo Gi that he used before. It makes sense as Piccolo was again his mentor before ToP. Definitely don't agree. Going back to the Piccolo outfit just screams "Hey, remember the Cell arc?" instead of continuing Gohan's development of wanting to honor h...
by Kagari
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:27 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I get where you guys are coming from. The problem with your desires is that it's contrary to DB narrative. The author's imagination is limited by the plot. DB is about raw power. No amount of teamwork will overcome that . Ants can not outpace a Dinosaur. The purpose of the chapter was to show how i...
by Kagari
Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31267
Views: 1665310

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The problem with the chapter is now Goku Blue is so much stronger than Gohan + C17. That's crazy than Gohan and Co are ants against a Saganbo with just one boost and that against Goku Blue the same Saganbo appear so weak even with several boost later !!! Goku apologizes to Gohan that he need to fig...
by Kagari
Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:29 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I don't know what problem people have with character reactions... People these days are like ''man, they are doing new stuff, they destroyed my childhood because blah blah...'' vs ''man, they are doing the same old stuff, I am bored because bla bla...'' Myself, I did find hilarious No. 18's comment...
by Kagari
Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:19 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

What could the Z gang do against Saganbo when their dog pile got tossed aside? Strategy works up to a point, like it did against 7-3. That was a great team effort. However, the plot escalated, they were no longer needed. Asking for the humans to unite Power Rangers style at that point is unreasonab...
by Kagari
Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:37 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

But Goku was always involved in this conflict from the start, even if at first he was being in Vegeta’s shadow the plot still had Goku as central as Vegeta and Merus. About Merus, he will most likely have to return in this very arc to complete his character arc and I expect that to be over once he ...
by Kagari
Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Fighting Moro can also serve as a payoff for Goku's training though. And I believe I adequately just explained why Moro isn't a sufficient benchmark. Goku beating on Saganbo is just throwaway wankery to, as you said, appease fanboys. Did you miss the part where I said Goku is one of the main vehicl...
by Kagari
Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31267
Views: 1665310

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It's more that 17 was written like a coward who just gives up. Piccolo and Gohan's strategy and teamwork make up for the lack of strength Piccolo has compared to Gohan.
by Kagari
Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:17 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Aside from the creative tactics, I like Gohan and Piccolo working together here because at least SOMEONE absorbed the lesson of teamwork from the Tournament of Power. I like how they were written in this chapter. That's completely fine. Seeing them working together against Saganbo (and failing to d...
by Kagari
Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

So I did some digging and found the raw version of the chapter I mentioned earlier (excuse my shitty MS Paint tier circle): https://i.imgur.com/qP6nKMm.png Viz somewhat erroneously translated this line as "a sign of Goku awakening to Ultra Instinct", but the original Japanese text has Whis straight...
by Kagari
Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:14 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

After giving it a little more thought, I actually realized I've been a bit unfair to the DBS manga when it comes to Piccolo/Gohan dynamic in fighting. I keep saying they're pair-up is overused, because the anime had them attached to the hip, but aside from the TOP they never actually really got to ...
by Kagari
Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:56 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Yeah, I mean a collaborative team-up with Gohan could provide some additional unique choreographic dynamics. Goku seemed accepting of working alongside Hit to combat Jiren during the Tournament of Power but when it comes to his own son he retracts himself and seems uncomfortable with involving him....
by Kagari
Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

He wasn't happy about potentially being surpassed by Goten and Trunks when he found out the kids could go SSj and he was fairly eager to fight Dabura. Those are the biggest examples and his cockiness against Boo shows he does have an underlying saiyan side when it comes to taking down an opponent. ...
by Kagari
Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Goku appearing could have offered some interesting threeway teamwork dynamics that you don't normally see in the manga. They didn't need to pedestal Goku yet again at that moment when we know he's going to predictably shine against Moro. Speaking of the centrality o...
by Kagari
Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

He told Cell he doesn't like fighting "like dad does". He found the death match meaningless but still stepped up when Cell wasn't going to back down. Even in the Boo arc Gohan still wasn't being forced, making his own decisions to fight. Taking the initiative even, in many of the cases. I agree tha...
by Kagari
Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Goku appearing could have offered some interesting threeway teamwork dynamics that you don't normally see in the manga. They didn't need to pedestal Goku yet again at that moment when we know he's going to predictably shine against Moro. Speaking of the centrality o...
by Kagari
Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Gohan vs Cell and everything that lead up to that. Gohan agreed to train (he was excited to do so) and he agrees to fight Cell when Goku asks him to. Goku did not force him. "Agreed". When you're 11 and your dad tells you to do something, you do it. Are you arguing that Gohan loves fighting? C'mon....
by Kagari
Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Goku never forced him to fight, ever, though. Each time Gohan fought it was his own choice with the exception of *Piccolo* forcing him to fight the Saiyans at the start of that battle. Gohan vs Cell and everything that lead up to that. Gohan agreed to train (he was excited to do so) and he agrees t...
by Kagari
Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31613
Views: 2356375

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

For me, it's definitely not too soon for Ultra Instinct, especially the Omen version. Ultra Instinct was first hinted at in Resurrection F. Aside from the fact that Goku used Omen multiple times in the Tournament of Power, we've already gone an arc-and-a-half without Goku having any control over it...