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by ChiefWamsutta
Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:13 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God
Replies: 26
Views: 1913

Re: Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God

On the other hand, the anime expressly tells us that Hit doesn't power up during his entire fight with Goku. He improves his Time Skip and modifies his ready stance, but doesn't actually increase his overall strength. He even acts like he's powering up just to turn around and reveal that it was all...
by ChiefWamsutta
Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:57 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God
Replies: 26
Views: 1913

Late 2018 Headcanon Take on Saiyan Beyond God

Hello everyone! As many of us know, the phrase "Saiyan Beyond God" elicits controversy and annoyance out of anyone who reads it. This was, at its core, a production mistake. Goku and Vegeta were originally going to have just Base and SSBlue; then they were given Base, Yellow-haired forms again, and ...
by ChiefWamsutta
Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:06 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30420
Views: 1447556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It makes sense to me, although i'd put ss full power in the intermediate category as I don't think its quite as strong multiplier wise as god but its above ssj3(assuming thats how you are grouping them) That's what I wasn't sure about because Kale and Caulifla both achieved their versions of SS2 (C...
by ChiefWamsutta
Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:53 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30420
Views: 1447556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Brolys "Ikari(Anger") state is stronger than ssg goku and vegeta (post ToP) so yeah without ss he would utterly shit on any other saiyans other than goku and vegeta at their best. I confidently would say case Broly (Anger) is at the bare minimum stronger than even Base Kefla was Ummm, so I am not s...
by ChiefWamsutta
Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:25 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30420
Views: 1447556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So I want to make sure I understand some things ... Broly basically has a Base form that is hilariously stronger than Goku, Vegeta, or any other Saiyan's Base form. Right? Goku and Vegeta have found very advanced transformations. Broly uses more basic transformations. Broly uses SS1 and LSS, which ...
by ChiefWamsutta
Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:06 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30420
Views: 1447556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So I want to make sure I understand some things ... Broly basically has a Base form that is hilariously stronger than Goku, Vegeta, or any other Saiyan's Base form. Right? Goku and Vegeta have found very advanced transformations. Broly uses more basic transformations. Broly uses SS1 and LSS, which a...
by ChiefWamsutta
Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:44 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: [Fan Manga] - DBVS (Young Jijii)
Replies: 66
Views: 42285

Re: [Fan Manga] - DBVS (Young Jijii)

Dark_Tzitzimine wrote:Here's the cover for Volume 3 https://twitter.com/youngjijii/status/1 ... 7443821569
Can anyone translate the bottom of the cover? It seems to say "4God". Does Young Jijii call this form SSGSS4?
by ChiefWamsutta
Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Were the movie retelling arcs necessary in DBS or should they have just been omitted?
Replies: 35
Views: 2035

Re: Were the movie retelling arcs necessary in DBS or should they have just been omitted?

It's hard to say, for me. I have gone back and forth on whether or not I feel they were needed. I think it depends on what angle you look at. For audiences who didn't know about the movies and needed more context? Necessary. For avid Dragon Ball fans who went to see the new movies in the theater? Pr...
by ChiefWamsutta
Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:54 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Help understanding the mechanics of Kale/Kefla
Replies: 12
Views: 1057

Re: Help understanding the mechanics of Kale/Kefla

I have a couple more questions, if that is okay. Do you think SSBerserk is an advanced form of SS1Grade3? Or unrelated to SS1Grade2/SS1Grade3 that coincidentally is in between SS1 and SS2? Berserk is a unique transformation exclusive to legendary Saiyans, entirely unrelated to the Grade forms. I wo...
by ChiefWamsutta
Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:34 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Help understanding the mechanics of Kale/Kefla
Replies: 12
Views: 1057

Re: Help understanding the mechanics of Kale/Kefla

So Kefla is, in fact, using the SS1 and SS2 that we all know and love, but her hair color is green due to Kale being a fusee? Was Kale's muddy-yellow-haired form that she got in the Cocotte Zone regular SS1? Maybe she just has a color variant of SS1 because she is unique? What would Kale's controll...
by ChiefWamsutta
Sat Aug 04, 2018 4:24 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30420
Views: 1447556

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Here's how I see the power scaling with the recent announcement: Omni-Kings Grand Priest Angels _____ Broly MUI Goku (Could be switched with Broly) Jiren Beerus SSB Vegito Merged Zamasu UI Goku ______ SSBE Vegeta God of Destruction Toppo SSB KKx20 Goku Golden Frieza SSB Goku + SSB Vegeta Hit SSR Gok...
by ChiefWamsutta
Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Kale's Super Saiyan forms
Replies: 44
Views: 3815

Re: Kale's Super Saiyan forms

Unless the Dokkan Battle card refers to Kale's yellow-haired state from earlier in the tournament, I don't believe she actually has a "Super Saiyan 2" form. Nothing in the anime specifically calls it that, and the official design notes refer to it as the "controlled/mastered" version of her Legenda...
by ChiefWamsutta
Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Kale's Super Saiyan forms
Replies: 44
Views: 3815

Re: Kale's Super Saiyan forms

Let me put it this way. Due to being Legendery Super Saiyan, Kale and Broly have different types of transformations to your normal saiyan. Their "normal" SS forms are different, Kale's hair is slightly greenish and in both cases they get a notiable increase in muscle mass. So there's enough there t...
by ChiefWamsutta
Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Kale's Super Saiyan forms
Replies: 44
Views: 3815

Re: Kale's Super Saiyan forms

Just so I understand ... Regular SS1, Kale's SS, Kefla's SS1, and Broly's SS are all the same form? [spoiler] https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/5/58/GokuSuperSaiyanTransformedAtLast.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/193?cb=20100702081945 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...
by ChiefWamsutta
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Help understanding the mechanics of Kale/Kefla
Replies: 12
Views: 1057

Help understanding the mechanics of Kale/Kefla

Hello there! I have made topics about this before, but I still don't think I understand how Kale and Kefla work. The mechanics of their green-haired forms confuse me. So, I was hoping someone here might be able to help me. So Kefla has Base, SS1, and SS2. Where I am confused is the following: when K...
by ChiefWamsutta
Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:53 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Fun Names I made for the Saiyan Forms
Replies: 11
Views: 587

Re: Fun Names I made for the Saiyan Forms

SSRosé = Demonic Saiyan Actually, It should be something like "True Divine Saiyan". Super Saiyan Rosè is the most regal and prestigious Saiyan form one could attain, since it is the form of a true deity, unbound by the shackles of mortality, who has surpassed Super Saiyan God. I understand where yo...
by ChiefWamsutta
Wed Jul 18, 2018 1:37 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Fun Names I made for the Saiyan Forms
Replies: 11
Views: 587

Re: Fun Names I made for the Saiyan Forms

Berserker1921 wrote:
I some of them.

I would have called ssjbe= Royal Saiyan
I am really glad you like some of them! 'Royal Saiyan' is a great touch. I was trying to keep within the holiness theme for God, Blue, Rosé, and Blue Evolution.
by ChiefWamsutta
Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:44 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Fun Names I made for the Saiyan Forms
Replies: 11
Views: 587

Fun Names I made for the Saiyan Forms

One of the reasons I did this is because I found the formula "Super Saiyan ____" to be repetitive. I wanted each form to have it's own unique name and presence. Ultra Instinct = Perfect Saiyan UIO = Instinctive Saiyan SS4 = True Saiyan SSBerserker = Legendary Saiyan SSBE = Spiritual Saiyan SSRosé = ...
by ChiefWamsutta
Mon Jul 16, 2018 2:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: More Precise Name for Super Saiyan 4
Replies: 26
Views: 1253

Re: More Precise Name for Super Saiyan 4

Super Saiyan Primal is the best one I've heard and its been floating around for a while. Others I can think of: Super Saiyan Origin Super Saiyan Evolved (too bad this will make many think of DB Evolution) Super Saiyan Hybrid (since you have to go Oozaru before you can unlock it and it looks partly ...
by ChiefWamsutta
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:06 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: More Precise Name for Super Saiyan 4
Replies: 26
Views: 1253

More Precise Name for Super Saiyan 4

I have been feeling recently that the name "Super Saiyan 4" is not accurate to what the form itself is. The numbering system was used for yellow-haired Super Saiyans. The number 4 would make sense unless the form were entirely yellow. But since it is not, I have been trying to think of a more precis...