Goku is a master of all Earth's martial arts. Of course he knows how to grapple. Even if there were moves he never saw before, he only needs to see them once in order to master them.
Some grappling moments off the top of my head:
Goku puts Tenshinhan in the boston crab.
Second fight (in the anime ...
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- Tue Jan 20, 2026 6:03 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Anyone think Dragon Ball should incorporate grappling into their fight choreography?
- Replies: 6
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- Wed Dec 24, 2025 9:14 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: King Vegeta was a genius
- Replies: 8
- Views: 6229
King Vegeta was a genius
We have to appreciate the difficulty and complexity of the situation he was in.
On his left is Freeza, treating him like a slave.
And on his right is Beerus, treating him like a slave.
Vegeta was constantly balancing on a tightrope, death on either side, and managed to maintain perfect balance ...
On his left is Freeza, treating him like a slave.
And on his right is Beerus, treating him like a slave.
Vegeta was constantly balancing on a tightrope, death on either side, and managed to maintain perfect balance ...
- Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:59 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Does Goku play up his innocence and ignorance?
- Replies: 39
- Views: 17328
Re: Does Goku play up his innocence and ignorance?
This definitely became a thing starting with the Cell Games.
- Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:14 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: King Vegeta did nothing wrong
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1743
King Vegeta did nothing wrong
He was right about Broly.
In both continuities.
Some people think King Vegeta was just petty and jealous, and that is probably true too. But we cannot take away the fact that he accurately predicted everything.
He said Broly will someday lose control of himself and become a threat to the entire ...
In both continuities.
Some people think King Vegeta was just petty and jealous, and that is probably true too. But we cannot take away the fact that he accurately predicted everything.
He said Broly will someday lose control of himself and become a threat to the entire ...
- Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:56 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Do you think GT Goku and Vegeta are stronger than their Super counterparts?
- Replies: 154
- Views: 143500
Re: do you think gt goku and vegeta are stronger then their super counterparts?
In the year 2024, there are literally 0 reasons to try and fit Super and GT into the same timeline. They are quite clearly different continuities that don't mix.
I'll leave it at that as we can't even agree on the basics.
They are different timelines. But the characters are still the same ...
- Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:28 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Do you think GT Goku and Vegeta are stronger than their Super counterparts?
- Replies: 154
- Views: 143500
Re: do you think gt goku and vegeta are stronger then their super counterparts?
Sorry, I don't think your argument makes any sense at all tbh,
Freeza is in GT. He trained for longer than Freeza did in Super.
Uub was suggested to be monstrously strong in the Moro arc of Super. GT has that same Uub, at his full potential.
There are reasons to believe GT is stronger ...
- Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:23 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Do you think GT Goku and Vegeta are stronger than their Super counterparts?
- Replies: 154
- Views: 143500
Re: do you think gt goku and vegeta are stronger then their super counterparts?
They're obviously not in the same continuity. Why would you even use that argument?
Because it is Goku. He'll get stronger no matter what.
Sorry, I don't think your argument makes any sense at all tbh,
Freeza is in GT. He trained for longer than Freeza did in Super.
Uub was suggested ...
- Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:41 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Do you think GT Goku and Vegeta are stronger than their Super counterparts?
- Replies: 154
- Views: 143500
Re: do you think gt goku and vegeta are stronger then their super counterparts?
There are two ways to look at it.
The feats perspective, or the in-universe perspective.
Since this is a Dragon Ball board and not a versus battle board, we don’t need to be obsessed with feats. Look at it from the perspective of Dragon Ball itself and the way the story works, it only makes ...
- Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:37 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Would Baby and Freeza get along?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2699
Re: Would Baby and Freeza get along?
I don’t think it’s possible for Baby or Freeza to get along with anybody.
“Oh, you hate the saiyans too? Neat. You still need to bow to me though.”
“Oh, you hate the saiyans too? Neat. You still need to bow to me though.”
- Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:21 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Do you think GT Goku and Vegeta are stronger than their Super counterparts?
- Replies: 154
- Views: 143500
Re: do you think gt goku and vegeta are stronger then their super counterparts?
There are two ways to look at it.
The feats perspective, or the in-universe perspective.
Since this is a Dragon Ball board and not a versus battle board, we don’t need to be obsessed with feats. Look at it from the perspective of Dragon Ball itself and the way the story works, it only makes sense ...
The feats perspective, or the in-universe perspective.
Since this is a Dragon Ball board and not a versus battle board, we don’t need to be obsessed with feats. Look at it from the perspective of Dragon Ball itself and the way the story works, it only makes sense ...
- Fri Nov 08, 2024 9:42 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Did Vegeta plan to be possessed by Babidi?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2245
Did Vegeta plan to be possessed by Babidi?
I mentioned that Vegeta planned to be possessed by Babidi because he wanted the power boost. Someone told me I was wrong and Vegeta couldn’t have known about this.
I’m pretty sure he explained to Goku that he saw the power boost that Spoppvich received, so he wanted the same thing for himself. He ...
I’m pretty sure he explained to Goku that he saw the power boost that Spoppvich received, so he wanted the same thing for himself. He ...
- Sun Aug 18, 2024 9:56 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: List of canon DB villains by how evil they are.
- Replies: 21
- Views: 6585
Re: List of canon DB villains by how evil they are.
Hey, we don't know that for sure. Give the man a chance! He seems nice!Hellspawn28 wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:51 pm Dabra was already evil before he was taken over by Babidi.
- Mon Aug 12, 2024 11:43 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
- Replies: 15508
- Views: 2408968
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
Goku is a hero. Just because he enjoys the fighting does not diminish his moral compass.
Goku will help a complete stranger and dedicate his whole day to them if they ask. He is also willing to stand still and take a beating if someone is being held hostage. So preserving life means even more to ...
Goku will help a complete stranger and dedicate his whole day to them if they ask. He is also willing to stand still and take a beating if someone is being held hostage. So preserving life means even more to ...
- Mon Aug 12, 2024 11:32 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4008
Re: Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?
I think Yamcha was slightly stronger than Krillin during the 22nd. I think Tenshinhan had a closer fight with Yamcha, then Krillin did with Goku.
Yamcha could have been stronger in the saiyans arc too. They all knew each other's levels, but Yamcha wanted to protect Krillin. Yamcha and Krillin ...
- Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:03 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4008
Re: Was Yamcha ever stronger than Kuririn?
I think Yamcha was slightly stronger than Krillin during the 22nd. I think Tenshinhan had a closer fight with Yamcha, then Krillin did with Goku.
Yamcha could have been stronger in the saiyans arc too. They all knew each other's levels, but Yamcha wanted to protect Krillin. Yamcha and Krillin both ...
Yamcha could have been stronger in the saiyans arc too. They all knew each other's levels, but Yamcha wanted to protect Krillin. Yamcha and Krillin both ...
- Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:39 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
- Replies: 37869
- Views: 5040208
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Dr. Gero vs Babidi
Both have 20 years of prep time. Science vs magic who wins? Since Babidi can take control of evil minds, the fight doesn't even start, I doubt that Gero has enough willpower to override Babidi's control like Vegeta did. That is, unless Gero can invent a completely electronic ...
- Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:40 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
- Replies: 37869
- Views: 5040208
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Dr. Gero vs Babidi
Both have 20 years of prep time. Science vs magic who wins?
Both have 20 years of prep time. Science vs magic who wins?
- Sat Aug 03, 2024 2:23 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Everyone talks about Tarble, but whatever happened to Abo and Cado?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2826
Re: Everyone talks about Tarble, but whatever happened to Abo and Cado?
At the end of the movie when they are eating and partying. It seems like they were more villains who were redeemed.
- Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:45 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: SSJ Multipier: "10-fold change from what it was up to that point"
- Replies: 53
- Views: 11583
Re: SSJ Multipier: "10-fold change from what it was up to that point"
It doesn't make sense because a 10x increase would be less than the Kaioken x20.
So maybe Toriyama meant it was a 10x increase from Goku's max power which was Kaioken x20. In which case SSJ is a 200x multiplier instead of 50x.
So maybe Toriyama meant it was a 10x increase from Goku's max power which was Kaioken x20. In which case SSJ is a 200x multiplier instead of 50x.
- Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:01 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Terrific performances by awful and or miscast actors.
- Replies: 8
- Views: 2921
Re: Terrific performances by awful and or miscast actors.
The "gosh these girls must be poor they can't afford clothes" line always bothered me. It was just established like 3 episodes prior that Goku has no concept of money. One of those instances of Funimation keeping the intent of a line but rewriting it in a way that's still wrong. The original ...