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- Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:35 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Base Cabba stronger than ssj3 Gotenks?
- Replies: 123
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Re: Base Cabba stronger than ssj3 Gotenks?
I love it when people say that Super doesn't make sense, as if power levels in Z made all the sense and Toriyama did the manga with calculator, carefully calculating all this bullshit, and not just for the money and to entertain young boys. Yeah, it makes sense, it's all about the power levels. The...
- Sat May 28, 2016 8:12 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: ssj x10 multiplier?
- Replies: 93
- Views: 10966
Re: ssj x10 multiplier?
I just thought of a theory. We know that dragon ball characters increase their power in bursts when they strike. We also know kaioken works in a similar way. So what if kaioken x20 is taking into account Goku raising his power level as he is attacking, while since ssj is a transformation it doesn't ...
- Sun May 15, 2016 1:57 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: ssj x10 multiplier?
- Replies: 93
- Views: 10966
Re: ssj x10 multiplier?
I disagree, it would take away everything that happened to allow this epic clash. Even being contradictory since the characters went out of their way to comment their weakness, even with the clear visual cues. Yet didn't comment their supposed recovery, with the damaged visuals still present. We do...
- Sat May 14, 2016 12:05 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: ssj x10 multiplier?
- Replies: 93
- Views: 10966
Re: ssj x10 multiplier?
Later in the fight when Goku's actually Super Saiyan, both him and Freeza are considerably damaged. People never take that into account. We never have any indication Super Saiyan restored Goku or that Freeza going 100% restored him. We just see them damaged, Freeza even comments how the Genki Dama ...
- Fri May 13, 2016 9:58 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: ssj x10 multiplier?
- Replies: 93
- Views: 10966
Re: ssj x10 multiplier?
Toriyama clearly explains what he means. He says that the real boost is 50x but he always imagined it as 10x for the sake of convenience and probably not to bloat battle powers too much. He clearly said 50x is an exaggeration and he feels like it is x10. He didn't say the real boost is x50. I agree...
- Fri May 13, 2016 9:16 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: ssj x10 multiplier?
- Replies: 93
- Views: 10966
ssj x10 multiplier?
It was brought to my attention that Toriyama thought of ssj as more of a x10 multiplier than a x50 multiplier. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/seg-story-volume-truth-about-dragon-ball/ "Only, at the time, it was considered that his strength would increase 50-fold when he became a Super S...
- Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:45 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: So was Freeza really the strongest in the universe?
- Replies: 43
- Views: 10018
Re: So was Freeza really the strongest in the universe?
At the time in his universe, not including gods/kais, yes he was. I guess you could count buu, but he was sealed.
- Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:03 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Is base Gotenks stronger than Majin Vegeta?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 9002
Re: Is base Gotenks stronger than Majin Vegeta?
there isn't anything that puts base Gotenks above Majin Vegeta so I'm going to go with no.
- Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:59 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Is really base BoGs Goku weaker than Namek saga 100% Freeza?
- Replies: 274
- Views: 32457
Re: Is really base BoGs Goku weaker than Namek saga 100% Fre
The only thing that contradicts Frieza>base saiyans is Vegeta saying he can win the tournament while in his base. Maybe he was just being cocky though.