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by dragon boss z
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:45 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Can we consider Piccolo Daimao and Piccolo Jr the same person?
Replies: 208
Views: 3363

Re: Can we consider Piccolo Daimao and Piccolo Jr the same person?

He kept Daimao's memories, but he has a different personality. So basically it depends on if you think memories or personality are what make a person an individual.
by dragon boss z
Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29722
Views: 1348969

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

PFM18 wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:35 am
It more so proves Toyotaro is inconsistent, along with a litany of other examples.
Unless this came from Toriyama.
And Piccolo. But who is saying otherwise? Of course he is stronger than the bunch outside of those five characters.
No, not Piccolo.
by dragon boss z
Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29722
Views: 1348969

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The new chapter proves Buu isn't nearly as weak as some people claim he is compared to other Super characters, at least in the manga version. He's definitely above every Z fighter that isn't Goku, Vegeta, 17, and Gohan. Merus' speed seems higher than it should be, but he is propelled by technology a...
by dragon boss z
Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 29722
Views: 1348969

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So, I was thinking recently. Zamasu is supposed to be the strongest among all Kaioshin, as plainly stated in the manga and implied in the anime. Some of the Kaioshin, namely some of Universe 7's that fought Moro and Pure Buu, were quite strong; even Shin, often laughed off as kinda weak, was only s...
by dragon boss z
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo (fighting against #20)
Replies: 41
Views: 4548

Re: Piccolo (fighting against #20)

Piccolo destroyed Android 20 with ease, he didn't use his full power, so he was as strong as a super sayan at that point. Plus Android 17 needed during the Vegeta/ 18 fight, Android 17 needed only one bump to take down Super Sayan Truks, while he needed more bumps to take down Pccolo A17 one-shotte...
by dragon boss z
Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:25 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34108
Views: 1258207

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

A Few Battles I Came Up With Because I'm Bored... 1) Base Gogeta (Broly Movie) Vs SSjB Goku (Broly Movie) 2) Base Vegito (Buu Saga) Vs Hypotheatical SSj Gogeta (Buu Saga) 3) SSjB Goku (Pre ToP) Vs Base Goku (Post ToP) 4) Ultra Instinct "Omen" Goku (Ep. 110) Vs SSjBE Vegeta (Ep. 127) 5) Hypotheatica...
by dragon boss z
Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:39 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: Why wasn't DB Kai a completely new animated series?
Replies: 29
Views: 4944

Re: Why wasn't DB Kai a completely new animated series?

Only a few minutes here and there but it sure does feel like a whole lot more than that. Plus, the DVD-like gameplay is also part of the experience but the cutscenes are perfectly fine on their own. Sure, they are fine cutscenes, but that isn't enough for someone who wants the whole series reanimat...
by dragon boss z
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:37 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Kai
Topic: Why wasn't DB Kai a completely new animated series?
Replies: 29
Views: 4944

Re: Why wasn't DB Kai a completely new animated series?

JohnnyCashKami wrote:
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:41 am
You're aware of DBZ UT? Just pop in the disc in your 360 or PS3 and watch that since they made a reanimated version of DBZ in high definition. It's even somewhat more complete considering it includes the Majin Boo arc.
lol wut? They are only a few minutes of reanimated footage in that game...
by dragon boss z
Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:50 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo (fighting against #20)
Replies: 41
Views: 4548

Re: Piccolo (fighting against #20)

1. Regardless if he raises his energy in bursts when attacking (which is something nearly everyone in the series does), he would still have to be SSJ level in order for him to be that strong, since that's how DB works. But clearly Gero didn't even absorb enough energy to match Piccolo, so it really...
by dragon boss z
Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo (fighting against #20)
Replies: 41
Views: 4548

Re: Piccolo (fighting against #20)

1. If Piccolo could beat up Dr. Gero (who is better than A19) even after getting his energy stolen then logically his is on par with the SSJs. Idk why you are in denial. Piccolo said that was because he raises his energy in bursts when attacking. 2. Nowhere in the manga page you posted did Gohan te...
by dragon boss z
Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:24 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo (fighting against #20)
Replies: 41
Views: 4548

Re: Piccolo (fighting against #20)

1. What Krillin was basically saying in that scene was "how can he be that strong without transforming?". He wouldn't have made that comment if Piccolo wasn't anywhere near the SSJ1's level (logic 101). He wasn't downplaying Piccolo. I agree, Piccolo was leagues above anyone who wasn’t a ssj. I’m s...
by dragon boss z
Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:04 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo (fighting against #20)
Replies: 41
Views: 4548

Re: Piccolo (fighting against #20)

There are a multitude of explanations. You're missing the point. I agree that there are a number of possible explanations... Piccolo is simply listing some of those possibilities... but Piccolo cannot logically consider the possibility of them having grown too strong unless he were beyond [Initial]...
by dragon boss z
Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:29 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo (fighting against #20)
Replies: 41
Views: 4548

Re: Piccolo (fighting against #20)

Read the quote. Kuririn compared Cell to Freeza. Saying this thing (Cell) is even more powerful than Freeza. He didn't mention the androids #18 and #17 either, who were already way more powerful than Freeza. So it's possible Kuririn was merely comparing the to-be villain with the former one. Yeah, ...
by dragon boss z
Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo (fighting against #20)
Replies: 41
Views: 4548

Re: Piccolo (fighting against #20)

Maybe Piccolo thought the androids only beat Trunks because it was 2v1, No, Trunks stated in the original manga that even fighting one on one he was barely able to escape alive. They were expecting enemies > Trunks at the very least. Yeah, but Piccolo may have thought Trunks was over exaggerating, ...
by dragon boss z
Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo (fighting against #20)
Replies: 41
Views: 4548

Re: Piccolo (fighting against #20)

They didn't say that. They said that their 3 years of training in advance made these Androids less of a problem Piccolo was wondering if the androids were weaker than they originally thought. Krillin literally said that he was as strong as a SSJ. You are twisting his words. No, you are the one twis...
by dragon boss z
Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo (fighting against #20)
Replies: 41
Views: 4548

Re: Piccolo (fighting against #20)

That is incorrect. After stating that the future had changed, Piccolo poised two questions as an attempt to justify why: " Was is that you weren't as strong as we thought? " " Or have we grown too strong? " He quite literally cannot question that second possibility without being, at the very least,...
by dragon boss z
Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo (fighting against #20)
Replies: 41
Views: 4548

Re: Piccolo (fighting against #20)

The trouble is, is that Tenshinhan is impressed by sick Goku having seen post Yardat Goku. So we have hypothetical healthy Goku > Piccolo > Android's > sick Goku > Yardat Goku > Freeza Tien never saw Goku actually fight for real, and he said something along the lines of "so this is what a ssj is li...
by dragon boss z
Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:59 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo (fighting against #20)
Replies: 41
Views: 4548

Re: Piccolo (fighting against #20)

Both A19 and Dr.Gero were portrayed and hyped as being stronger than any previous foes, and Piccolo stomped Dr. Gero. No, the androids from Trunk's future were hyped to be above any previous foe. When they started fighting they stated 19 and 20 were weaker thane expected. Piccolo was even compared ...
by dragon boss z
Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:59 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34108
Views: 1258207

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Just like how Gohan couldn't have gotten much stronger in a day? Gohan hasn’t been training and regained his old form, which he has never trained in before. We saw back in the Namek arc how fast characters strength could grow post potential unleashing, especially Gohan. Plus Gohan actually proved h...
by dragon boss z
Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:10 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34108
Views: 1258207

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Broly (Full Power Super Saiyan) vs God of Destruction Mode Toppo Cumber (Super Saiyan 3 Full Power) vs Omega Shenron (Full Power) Broly (Full Power Supet Saiyan) vs Cumber (Super Saiyan 3) Broly stomps Toppo, at full power he is Jiren tier, and Goku and Vegeta (both at or above GoD Toppo level) cou...