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- Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:35 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Why are they retconning the original Bardock special? Now it's no longer canon?
- Replies: 201
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Re: Why are they retconning the original Bardock special? Now it's no longer canon?
Bardock is a useless character in the old special - he can't even hold his ground against Dodoria and the only badass thing he does is beat up nameless mooks. Big deal. Literally everyone on the Z Roster can do this. It's like saying that Dragonball is ruined in a remake because they took out the s...
- Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:20 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Why are they retconning the original Bardock special? Now it's no longer canon?
- Replies: 201
- Views: 29703
Re: Why are they retconning the original Bardock special? Now it's no longer canon?
The original Bardock special was no more canon than the Broly or Cooler movies lol. Aside from one panel in the manga, that's the only thing about it. And honestly, I get that it was popular with fans, but it was otherwise irrelevant from a canon perspective. Not to mention this definitively gets r...
- Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:15 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Why are they retconning the original Bardock special? Now it's no longer canon?
- Replies: 201
- Views: 29703
Re: Why are they retconning the original Bardock special? Now it's no longer canon?
As much as Toriyam seemed to like the TV special to include a scene of it in the manga, Dragon Ball Minus is Toriyama's personally crafted backstory for Bardock and Goku. And for the sake of convenience, he's just going with the story that he's more accustomed to, or at the very least, has better k...
- Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:22 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Shifting The Focus From Goku
- Replies: 69
- Views: 7227
Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku
Not to pull this thread away from its main theme, but the series, starting with the King Piccolo saga and especially from the Saiyan saga on, left much of the "fun-loving, tournament-style fighting" behind in favor of higher stakes, "fate of the world" battles and darker (not al...
- Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:48 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Shifting The Focus From Goku
- Replies: 69
- Views: 7227
Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku
I think Gohan failed as the main lead because he was never written--prior to his lead take-over--to be a fighter/defender for a action series. Gohan's character fits more with a slife-of-life/drama series as he is opposed to fighting but is forced into these situations. A show about training and ge...
- Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:04 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Shifting The Focus From Goku
- Replies: 69
- Views: 7227
Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku
Yeah, I think having Goku in a mentor position would be the best you can do with the character as he continuously gets older and we stop having the 10-year gap to work with. A Batman Beyond type of deal would work really well. Now I'm imagining Goku in his mountain home, hair gone white, long beard...
- Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:26 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Shifting The Focus From Goku
- Replies: 69
- Views: 7227
Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku
If Dragon Ball wasnt about Goku, would you still watch it? And if they made the main character Uub, how would you like his personality and drive to get stronger be? Yes, I would. How long would depend upon the quality. Dragon Ball 's turned the spotlight on other characters already. Somebody mentio...
- Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:48 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: By design, what is your favorite Saiyan transformation?
- Replies: 41
- Views: 6077
Re: By design, what is your favorite Saiyan transformation?
Super Saiyan 5 :P Honestly, if you're judging based solely on design, it depends on which character you're talking about. Gohan's best-looking transformation was SSJ2 in the Cell Games, but Goku's is probably the basic SSJ. Vegeta's design never really changes except for palette swaps, and Trunks's ...
- Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:01 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: I love the Funimation Dub pre-Kai
- Replies: 155
- Views: 17928
Re: I love the Funimation Dub pre-Kai
I grew up with the Funi dub, and I've got a soft spot for it still. I've never gone back and rewatched it from beginning to end (not enough time) but reviewing key scenes and episodes, it does, in large part, fail to hold up to a critical eye - in the writing, the performances, and the way that musi...
- Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:35 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: How were you introduced into the franchise?
- Replies: 50
- Views: 5544
Re: How were you introduced into the franchise?
The Toonami block after school in the late 90s.
- Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:34 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Do you still think Gohan should've been the main character?
- Replies: 153
- Views: 19533
Re: Do you still think Gohan should've been the main character?
Iwould be genuinely curious to know what angle you would've preferred Toriyama take with Gohan after the Cell Games. Since you asked.... Honestly, I think the way Gohan is presented in Movie 9 is one of my favorites. He’s shown still having an interest in martial arts; ChiChi is accepting of it and...
- Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:55 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Do you still think Gohan should've been the main character?
- Replies: 153
- Views: 19533
Re: Do you still think Gohan should've been the main character?
Granted, I'm a Gohan fan and I still don't necessarily agree with the angle the series took him after the Cell Games but in general, I always thought Goku eventually passing the torch made sense. Heck, when I first saw Dragonball, that was the impression I got as early as the Namek saga. We're seei...
- Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:54 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
- Replies: 12445
- Views: 1758318
Re: DragonBall Z Abridged
It's really easy to say what Abridged Goku or Vegeta or Krillin or Trunks are, but Gohan is a bit more difficult. Well, that's easy - he's Encyclopedia Gohannica :P But I always liked their take on Gohan as a wordy bookworm, and I found the exaggerated rages funny. And I think, as the (relative) st...
- Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:46 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Do you still think Gohan should've been the main character?
- Replies: 153
- Views: 19533
Re: Do you still think Gohan should've been the main character?
I don't see how you get from "it's darker" to "the theme of self-improvement gets pushed aside". Goku lets Vegeta go for the sake of fighting him again, and he lets Dr. Gero complete the cyborgs because he wants a good fight. That theme never goes away. Perhaps the next generati...
- Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:50 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Do you still think Gohan should've been the main character?
- Replies: 153
- Views: 19533
Re: Do you still think Gohan should've been the main character?
To get this back on track and away from this Vegeta discourse, Dragon Ball as a series is designed with Goku in mind as the lead. He’s the only character who ties into all the series’ core theme— There’s always someone stronger, bettering yourself for the sake of bettering yourself, and passing the...
- Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:09 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Has team four star been good for dragonball?
- Replies: 60
- Views: 10398
Re: Has team four star been good for dragonball?
I think overall it's been very good for Dragon Ball. While being funny and amusing in its own right, I think its biggest asset is using its humor to illuminate weaknesses in the original writing. People can often bristle at criticism of their nostalgia pet, but when it's presented in a way that mak...
- Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:03 pm
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
- Replies: 12445
- Views: 1758318
Re: DragonBall Z Abridged
I notice in the breakdown video, Cell's hatred of Gohan is described as, in part, "a commentary on [TFS's] writing." Do you guys not like the way you've written Gohan?
- Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:48 am
- Forum: Fan-Created Works
- Topic: DragonBall Z Abridged
- Replies: 12445
- Views: 1758318
Re: DragonBall Z Abridged
At first, I thought it was a little long, but on a rewatch? Perfect.KaiserNeko wrote:Also, you couldnt pay me to make the My Way scene shorter. XD
- Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:37 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
- Replies: 14629
- Views: 1580693
Re: Unpopular DB opinions
A few more: - If Kai is an undeniably better performed dub more faithful to the spirit of its source, there are a not-insignificant number of scenes where the looser adaptation of the original Z dub made for better dialogue. "This is to go even further beyond," "throw you into the win...
- Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:18 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Who is the best designed villain in the franchise?
- Replies: 49
- Views: 7639
Re: Who is the best designed villain in the franchise?
Janemba, for me. Whatever his defects in character, the actual design is gorgeous.