Kanzenshuu

jjgp1112 wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 6:41 pm Edit: ^Ah, if this came off as a snarky rebuttal to the above post, I didn't intend to

No worries, it wasn't taken as such.

And when I saw the climax of the Buu saga as a kid, I enjoyed it. It felt like a grand finale. It just didn't hold up the more I thought about it.

I'm afraid the contrivances before and after the moments covered in this episode aren't something I can ignore. The Buu saga isn't Goku's story, it's certainly not Vegeta's story, and the fact that they get a good resolution doesn't mean much to me when all the characters whose story this was - who ...

Well, in my case, the fact that the villain isn't the focus - and, frankly, feels shoehorned in for the sake of having a villain - is a great argument for this film not needing a Big Bad at all. If the dragon ball hunt and the village conflict had been fleshed out a little more - maybe given an ...

I really have to disagree that the film would have been better off without Broly. His known menace and presence is precisely one of the things that makes it work, as we understand the tension of Videl (to our unease) and later Goten and Trunks (to our unease but also in a comical sense) not ...

IMO, the first half of Broly: Second Coming is everything the early Buu saga should have been once the Saiyaman material wrapped up. The more time passes, the more disappointed I am that the whole "next generation" angle of that period never got a chance to shine. Videl (almost) fully integrated ...

Starting to get the feeling that the treatment of Gohan in the Buu saga was a contributing factor to the burnout

Funny how Gohan's SSJ2 ended up at the #3 spot on yet another of their lists.

Whether it was a write-around or not, I like the new variation on the Piccolo gag. And in a world where Goku never came back for the Buu saga, this idea - - is what I would've wanted to see.

I enjoyed the two Unabridged episodes previewed on the Livestream well enough - I'm game to keep tuning in.

Watching the Kakarot LP, I'd really like to see the team do an unscripted talk on the Buu saga - a long-form discussion on what they think of it, the ideas they tossed around for it, and/or ...

Like so many others - sad at the news but respect the decision.

Curious, though - would there be any chance of Buu gettting the "In x minutes or less" treatment?

Now I'd like to see "Cell vs. Plankton" based on the VA comparisons.

(Enjoying the DragonShortZ so far; I'd be curious to know if, were it to become feasible, TFS would consider switching to 2D animation. Besides being a step closer to the original, I think the thumbnails they've had drawn for the ...

I think of the Cell arc as a three-piece suit that needed quick mending by a self-employed tailor. The stitching used to mend it is plain to see, and it's cinched tight in a few places, but it's still a good suit fit to wear. (By contrast, the Buu saga is a three-piece suit with a fine waistcoat and ...

It occurred to me after reading Kaiser's Reddit post that Bojack could've worked as a Halloween special. Re-conceiving it as such would've already allowed for a shorter running time - five to ten minutes, max - and the footage could be twisted to the concept's advantage by making something (very ...

- Goten is not only a fun and likable character, but his scenes with big brother Gohan during the high school/tournament prep part of the Buu Saga are better than any of his scenes with Trunks or as Gotenks.
- Vegeta's sacrifice against Fat Buu should have been the permanent end for his character.

While I can see why you're not particularly moved about the 16 sutff, one thing that surprised me was that you didn't bing up Mr. Satan's roll in getting the head there.


It is something I plan to bring up later. This script was so tightly focused on Gohan it did not flow at all to shift gears ...

I mean, fighting is a great emphasis, especially when the protagonist has it as his main hobby and focus in life, but at the same time the series is much more than that, which is shown in the earlier stories. Goku's fighting ability is not a huge emphasis in the early episodes and is more "he knows ...

What if...instead of Old Kai, the Z-Sword itself was sentient? In a way similar to the Byakko sword from Dairanger, it could talk or telepathically communicate with Gohan, and it's through training with and under the sword that Gohan achieves the Ultimate power-up. The Z-Sword never breaks in this ...

Because I saw the anime first, and because I can't recall anything in the manga that would make the anime's solution (a year in space) impossible, I can ease any unsettled state of minds by imagining that that's what happened off-page :D

Leaving that aside...if you accept the logic that Vegeta is ...

I've been surprised throughout this list, and this one especially so.

I would submit that the reason that Goku vs. Kid Buu isn't a widely-shared favorite, at least for some people, is that the technical skill behind it doesn't compensate for how poor a climax it is for the Buu saga as a story ...

I've been surprised throughout this list, and this one especially so.

I would submit that the reason that Goku vs. Kid Buu isn't a widely-shared favorite, at least for some people, is that the technical skill behind it doesn't compensate for how poor a climax it is for the Buu saga as a story. They ...

This is another big reason why the crying bit, silly though it is, doesn't bother me. The meat of Broly's story lies, really, with Paragus - his efforts to save his son, then to control his son, and finally, his doomed attempt to abandon his son, is interesting and well-written, IMO. The glimpses ...