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Can you give me a quote where Toriyama wrote characters calling final forms Strongest? Because Says the same "oh he's shrunk lol" line for Perfect Cell too and Kuririn said same about Freeza Final form. This is another issue with your arguments. You recognize that Toriyama reuses similar ...

Because Vegeta stated that all of earth was going to take responsibility of saving itself this time. The story is clear. That line is before Vegeta's and the verb here is they needed to fight whereas with Piccolo-Boo he said even Gohan can beat him alone. Potara were strictly recommended by Elder K...

We know Goku meant Gohan and Gotenks fighting in general. "They" is for general purposes not both at the same time. That's you adding that in there. Especially when we know Super Buu was stronger than Goku and Gohan is stronger than Super Buu. So why is Gohan not summoned instantly to kil...

We know Goku meant Gohan and Gotenks fighting in general. "They" is for general purposes not both at the same time. That's you adding that in there. Especially when we know Super Buu was stronger than Goku and Gohan is stronger than Super Buu. So why is Gohan not summoned instantly to kil...

In his dreams, he's stronger. Goku wanted none of Super Boo but all of Pure Boo to himself. He wanted so much of Pure Boo that he was trying to avoid him and willing to sacrifice the planets so that he can come up with the strategy to beat him. You totally need strategy to beat someone who you can ...

To sum up your theory: Kid Buu is stronger than Gohan [Mystic] because you assume Goku meant Vegeta brought back Gohan and Gotenks to fight Kid Buu at the same time . Including a Genki Dama struggling to kill Kid Buu even with Gohans and everyone else Genki to their limits? Your entire post is conj...

Are you seriously denying evidences over Someone's opinion? You might as well tag Herms to debate for you since you don't know much. Herms in his video with Geekdom said it's not clear and either can be stronger :lol: I don't know if you missed the first part of my response but I said I used to hav...

Except it explicitly said Ki. The reason Goten and Trunks don't fuse is same as Why Gohan and Kuririn didn't power up to Maximim before giving Piccolo their Ki on Namek. Gen-Ki literally means Original Ki or current Ki. Google Translate Genki Dama, it says Energy Ball. Manga uses Energy Ball too. W...

I think there is a clear difference between using a technique that gathers the energy of every living thing and asking someone else to fight for you. Using a technique which takes everyone's power right upto their limit shows that they both weren't enough otherwise Goku would have fired it right af...

I agree, also I think people might be forgetting Goku and Vegeta's saiya pride. Chicken out and call their baby boys to save their asses at the very thing they live for while having a fighting chance? it's their turn now and they were up to the task after all. Yet using baby boy's power and begging...

Clearly it takes Ki, Genki is Ki. Type Genki Dama on Google translate and it will translate as Energy Sphere. Genki is energy. Are you sure You are the one who's not misinformed? The term "Genki Dama" is used to make pun on "Denki Gama" Which means Electric Rice Cooker. The name...

Kid Buu isn’t the strongest so no Don’t know why we need multiple threads on this tiresome debate. Unproven debate, either way it's about Him being stronger than Gohan. It's not useless, if you have a point then prove it or ignore this post. Buu saga is just poorly written, fusion saga contradicts ...

Let's say Kid Buu somehow is more powerful than Super Buu instead of just with more malice. The pure fact that Ultimate Gohan completely stomped Super Buu is a pretty good telling that any battle Kid Buu has with Ultimate Gohan is going to be extreme difficulty. Super Boo is Semi Perfect Cell, Ulti...

Fat Boo is considerably stronger than Pure/"Kid" Boo. The absorption of Dai Kaioshin merely relaxed Boo's full-power, and made it more difficult for him to access the power of the Kaioshins. He was just toying with Goku during their short spar- and even suppressed, he was about equal to G...

I think you are overanalyzing conversations, words, expressions and reaching while ignoring combat feats such as SS3 Goku being in the same realm of Pure Boo and Gotenks and Gohan being definitely above him, and of course Boo as well. SS3 Goku wouldn't have lasted as long if Boo was DEFINITELY STRO...

For those who think Super Boo is stronger than Kid Boo, it makes sense that Goku would want Gohan and Gotenks to fight Kid Boo. It’s not like he is saying both are required to fight him. More like to play safe. In the same reasoning, by “everyone else”, he could mean Earth and the rest of the unive...

It was stated that "many Kaioshins have tried and failed", regardless, not "all of them", so we aren't required to have South Kaioshin as below the level Gohan was at when pulling out the Z sword. The fact that Kid Boo resorted to absorption when dealing with him, unlike the oth...

I think people have fine reasons to disagree with this idea, but there is definitely the intent of selling this Boo to be stronger than everyone else, even if sometimes it doesn’t seem like it.. Anyway, that’s kinda how Boo Arc was written. No need to be super pedantic about lines. Goku literally s...

Dbzfan94 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:02 am All these different colored text made this borderline unreadable.

Now fine?

Despite what people think Gohan was written to be weaker than Pure Boo. There are clear narrative evidence pointing to that : First is how Goku thought both Gohan and Gotenks were required Chapter: 514 (DBZ 320), P7.4 Context: after Vegeta has the Earth brought back with the dragonballs Goku: “Oh, I...