Kanzenshuu

"Damn, these assholes keep screwing with me! Making a mockery of the legendary transformation like it's nothing."

Dbzfan94 wrote:Alright...

"Hey! With all this crazy hair I barely recognize myself. Eh, at least it's better than pointy ears."

Gotenks when he goes SSJ3, in the hyperbolic time chamber in episode ~260 or so.

Snip. I doubt 19 would survive a blast from King Cold since Cold's about as strong as final form Frieza and 19 is considerably weaker. This is nothing a completely baseless assumption. #19 is implied to be much, much stronger than Freeza after he absorbs the KKH, let alone King Cold who is stated t...

One other thing...would it not be wise to dock 1 point for every time someone has to use the Internet to guess a quote? That way they won't get +2 and +3 for quotes they didn't know at first? How would you verify such a thing? Version 2 of the quote guessing game. Please read the rules thoroughly b...

What are your multipliers for SSGod and SSBlue?

Personally, I have:
SSGod: 100,000x,
Godly Base state: 1/2 of SSGod or 50,000x
SSBlue: SSGod + God Base or 150,000x.

I know Perfect Cell is far stronger than Vegeta and was dominating him in that fight, but it seemed to me that he was mostly holding himself to the same level as Vegeta and taking advantage of his superior speed to thrash him. Plus, 16 states Vegeta can win judging by the power he's sensing from Cel...

Snip. I doubt 19 would survive a blast from King Cold since Cold's about as strong as final form Frieza and 19 is considerably weaker. Also, I don't think Vegeta would team up with Goku even if his life depended on it, it would shatter his pride. Even if he tried, Goku most likely wouldn't listen s...

Assume he gains around the same level of mastery as Goku, able to use up to X2 safely, but can push up to X3 if needed. He can also train to reach higher levels while on Namek.

How would his ordeals on Namek change? What about the rest of the series?

Snip. Well, for me I never really viewed the gap between SSJ3 Goku and Gotenks/Super Buu as that large, by my power levels SSJ3 Goku would be 34 billion and Gotenks and Super Buu would both be at 48 billion, since as seen earlier in the series a gap of 25-30% is enough to completely dominate someon...

I'm going to concede this argument only because you brought a laser gun to an energy fight. Even in the manga sneak attacks are far more effective than attacks that are anticipated, allowing much weaker characters to deal damage to strong ones who have their guard down. Also, Goku is shown to have ...

FoolsGil wrote:Now you're just making things up. The series doesn't delve into that.

It does, Goku easily gets rekt by a laser when his guard is down whereas much stronger attacks do nothing when he anticipates them.

An energy attack that just pushes isn't an attack worth wasting life force on! It's not an attack you use to kill Nappa when you're about to die yourself! I'm not saying it just pushes, I'm saying the push is much stronger than the actual damage, as I illustrated in an earlier post for a "norm...

The Kikoho isn't different from the Kamehameha by design. It's not any different from any other beam attack by design. Attacks don't push extra feat just because. Tenshinhan's just had more energy to express that gave him the power to push Cell back and Cell couldn't take it. He could have done a K...

Then why doesn't the Kamehameha function like a huge prolonged shockwave when opponents tank it? a lot of attacks don't work, why is it that the Kikoho is special? Because the unlike the Kamehameha the Kikoho still pushes people back even when it does no damage whereas if someone tanks a Kamehameha...

I don't see how the Kienzan can be taken for face value just because it cuts off a few tails, but the already established rules in the series for blasting attacks is ignored because the one who fired the shot isn't a Saiyan. This conversation wouldn't even be happening if the same circumstances hap...

As to your point about the Kikoho, I don't know if I can really stomach it having that much pure power. Sure, since it severely drains life force it's obviously gonna be much stronger than a regular attack, but I don't think it can actually bridge the gap between him and people hundreds of times st...

That's because Potara fusion is stated to be much better than the dance, given what we see in the movie Gogeta's multiplier could very well be the same as Gotenks'. Rou Kaioshin does state that Vegetto is stronger than Boohan because he is a fusion of 2 of the 3 greatest masters in the universe whe...

It could be because Goten and Trunks are considerably weaker than Goku and Vegeta. The boys are weaker than their fathers but the power gap between Gotenks & Vegetto is too big to justify any statement that Goku or Vegeta are only a few fold stronger than their sons. Going by the anime, Base Ve...

The Kikoho is not a kiai. If it was just a standard kiai, why did Tenshinhan warn Goku to dodge the attack in the 22nd Budokai? Why did he use it as his final attack against Nappa or even use it a fight to the death instead of something that could injure if not kill? Why would everyone talk about h...

It may have to do with any of the following: - The current level of the fusee's strength - Physical maturity/age - Pre-existing potential or ability - Race/Species - Proficiency with fusion techniques - Ki control - A specific time or setting - A result based on desire/necessity The list could go o...