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Goku and Vegeta don't have to be 50x stronger, the boys were respectable but nowhere near Goku's power. They're at least a few times weaker in equal forms so it's more like getting 10-20x stronger. Plus Goku was already stronger than Gotenks in BoG.

The Gammas think Goten and Trunks were pretty good but 2 said pre-wish Piccolo was disappointing.

Does that mean SSJ Boys > Pre-wish Piccolo?

And how strong even was Piccolo? Used to think he was stronger than 17 since he lasted longer against Saganbo, but I’m not sure anymore.

This one wasn't half bad. The most fun I've had with Dragon Ball in months.

Zamasu. He is a Supreme Kai, so: 1) He already has knowledge of Ultra Instinct; The Supreme Kais are shown acknowledging UI/MUI in the ToP, and Zamasu directly acknowledges UI in Heroes. 2) he has an affinity with God Ki, because he's literally a God, this will make it much easier to tap into the G...

GOKU AND VEGETA Here the fun starts : > Vegeta thinks he can win the tournament without transforming even if piccolo and #18 are there , and no one contradicts him on that > Dabura literally says that there are 3 strong kis they can use to resurrect Boo, referring to the saiyans, and immediately af...

Insofar as Gohan appears to be SSj when he fights him and Dabura calls him "trash" in retrospect, and SSj Trunks appears to struggle in a (no doubt deliberately) very similar way when he fights him This is a great point. I never noticed that Trunks does stand his ground with Dabra a bit, ...

It's interesting how no one else among the team caught the virus despite frequently being around Goku, implying that the virus was either unique in that it only affected Goku...or it wasn't a virus. It's possible that the medicine that Trunks gave Goku was merely a placebo or had been regulated to ...

Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Goten, Trunks and Pan are the only ones who enjoy fighting, but Pan might be too young to join serious tournaments. If it's high stacked then everyone can show up. Broly, Boo and Oob are both wild cards that depend on just the intentions of the authors. Gohan, 17 and 18 don't ...

That’s what I think as well. Completed or not, Cell Max was completely overpowered by Beast Gohan. A scenario in which Cell Max beats Gohan probably revolves around Gohan not being able to use his full power for a particular reason or being caught off guard, which is within the realm of possibility...

Who's the strongest DB character that our real world can defeat? Like if we combine every military force. Probably Tao Pai Pai or Tenshinhan from the 22nd Budokai. Piccolo took over the world very easily. Future Gohan vs. Android 19 Future Gohan vs. Android 20 Future Gohan vs. Android 19 and Androi...

I think we should just forget that line about Jiren. Not because it's dumb (Although it is), but because it means absolutely nothing. Lots of people compare it to what Goku does against the Ginyu Force, but I've never seen anyone say 5000 was Goku's true power. Chapter: 281 (DBZ 87), P11.2-4 Jheese:...

I really don’t see why. If they made a point to keep him alive, it’s because they want to tell more stories with him. It’s not like they can come up with anything better, all the new stories consist of recycling old stories and/or involve Freeza somehow (Broly, Granolah).

Vegeta could tell how strong 19 and 20 were without even fighting them. He just had to see 19 from far away. That’s very impressive.

Vegeta vs 18 doesn’t count because Piccolo only arrived later. From what Piccolo knows, Vegeta misread Freeza, Cell twice and Hit.

I really dig Modern Toriyama’s more cartoonish art style, but by Kami this is horrendous. They look so flat.

I’m pretty sure Dragon Ball would be dead without Super. Wishing for Super to end is wanting to pull the life support plug.

Kibitoshin vs... DBZ Movie 8 LSSj Broli Perfect Cell Bojack (Transformed) Dabra Super Perfect Cell Majin Vegeta SSj2 Buu Saga Goku How far does he go? He’s much weaker than Majin Vegeta since he couldn’t stay behind to fight Kid Boo. I think he stops at Dabra since SPC rivals Kid Gohan who rivals M...

So, with Oppenheimer in the spotlight, I was wondering when did the characters get atomic power at their disposal? Was Roshi destroying the moon already as strong as an atomic bomb? Piccolo Jr. blowing up the stage? Piccolo's makankosappo? And when did they become able to access that power casually...

Tenshinhan and Chaozu fighting Bikkura Quoitur is the most characterization we’ve seen from these guys in the whole series, so I’ll defend it regardless of how pointless it was.

I don’t remember RoF saying Piccolo > Kids, but the anime has SSJ Gohan >>> SSJ Trunks for sure. I think the boys vs Cell Jrs fight was clearly one sided (The Jrs are smiling while the boys are struggling), but that could be because the Jrs ganged up on them. Adults >> Boys >> Piccolo for me. Even B...

I can’t ever bring myself to dislike Dragon Ball (Unless it’s Evolution), and most of the faults people point out also apply to the original series, but the series has seen better days.

Is Shin stronger than SS1 Saiyans in the Buu saga? It's weird that Piccolo considers "their dimensions are too different" but also was prepared to fight SS1's if they were stronger or even very close to Shin... Was there a last minute retcon? Or would he have asked the saiyans to go easy ...