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- Sun May 12, 2024 12:24 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
- Replies: 37490
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
1. Base Gogeta vs Ikari Broly 2. End of Saiyan arc Gohan vs Saiyan arc Piccolo 3. ToP Piccolo vs Super Janemba 4. LB Jiren vs Cell Max (Jiren is aware of his head weakness) 1. Even SSJB Goku had the upperhand on Ikari Broly, so Gogeta wins since he could Tao vs 22nd Krillin/Yamcha/Chiaotzu (not tog...
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:34 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: What do you think is the multiplier for Orange Piccolo
- Replies: 20
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Re: What do you think is the multiplier for Orange Piccolo
I think it all becomes easier if we pretend Gohan no-selling a punch from Cell Max didn't happen (Which is probably what T&T did since Gohan almost loses in a beam struggle the next chapter). That way everyone is on the same tier, and while Piccolo is at the bottom it's not by a stomping range. ...
- Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:27 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39977
- Views: 3981208
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Why do you hold Vegeta in such high regard? Ultimately, his role in the story amounts to making Goku look good. Has there ever been a storyline, at any point, in which Vegeta took the final spotlight away from Goku? Vegeta is just tagging along for the training because he is popular and he sells fi...
- Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:31 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: What do you think is the multiplier for Orange Piccolo
- Replies: 20
- Views: 2993
Re: What do you think is the multiplier for Orange Piccolo
Toriyama stated that Orange Piccolo is on par with Goku and Vegeta. He said this in regards to the movie. What does on par mean here? Well Orange Piccolo can’t be on par with UI Goku because the manga just showed that’s where Gohan Beast is. Anime logic well Goku doesn’t have complete access to UI ...
- Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:17 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39977
- Views: 3981208
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Goku has been training his whole life and he's still weaker than Freeza. Both times they fought Goku only won because of a miracle (A legendary transformation nobody had seen in 1,000 years and then Freeza's own hubris). Hot take, but I actually think Goku isn't gifted and has average potential for ...
- Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:43 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
- Replies: 37490
- Views: 3527353
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
18 performed better than Piccolo at the ToP and I remember a preview for it saying she can give Super Saiyans trouble or something like that. Obviously this can be a reference to the Android arc but if the shoe fits for the ToP then... Giving a SSJ trouble is really vague. Ribrianne was weaker than...
- Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:48 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
- Replies: 37490
- Views: 3527353
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Bardock [DBS] vs Appule. Galactic King vs Kid Vegeta. Guldo [No psychic abilities] vs Nappa. Tagoma [Pre Training] vs Dodoria. 18 [ToP arc] vs Frost [ToP arc]. They're about the same. Bardock barely wins since I imagine he's the better fighter [s]and has asspull power too.[/s] I have Galactic King ...
- Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:33 pm
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: The Original Movie 14.
- Replies: 12
- Views: 787
Re: The Original Movie 14.
Thank you. I was thinking about this the other day, we know very little about the original movie idea. How much of the script did Toriyama change exactly? I've seen people say he doesn't deserve all that credit because he only changed designs and the setting, but the descriptions of the original tak...
- Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:54 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39977
- Views: 3981208
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
In CH. 93 Broly was going Berserk. Broly could always go SSJ. He'd just lose control doing so. They made it clear in chapter 102 or 103 that he couldn't transform at all. Super Boo (Vegetto absorbed, permanent fusion) has to go through the events of Super. He kills Shin, meaning no Beerus, but he s...
- Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:55 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39977
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Of course Broly wasn't the strongest. He couldn't even go Super Saiyan!
Granolah and Gas were total dogwater. Gas at his best was still a ragdoll to UI Goku at full power. Wouldn't be surprised if 73 Moro could give Granolah trouble.
Granolah and Gas were total dogwater. Gas at his best was still a ragdoll to UI Goku at full power. Wouldn't be surprised if 73 Moro could give Granolah trouble.
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:41 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39977
- Views: 3981208
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Chapter 103 Broly compared to Broly (vs Blue Gogeta).....which one is supposed to be stronger? I was under the impression that Broly didn't access his "Beserk" level of strength vs Gohan, therefor he is still way stronger than what chapter 103 showed......or am I wrong? It depends. If you...
- Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:08 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39977
- Views: 3981208
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
If you compare the panels, Broly got much bigger when he transformed. I think it's safe to say he was a SSJFP/LSSJ/Controlled Berserker. I think he's a bit stronger so Ikari, Blue and Ultimate can be on equal terms, but that's probably not enough to surpass Gogeta. I don't see Current Broly beating ...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:32 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 162
- Views: 24956
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Just want to point out I've been vindicated by the news that AT wrote chapter 101-103. I knew it!GreatSaiyaman123 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:00 pm More Fat Gotenks. You're a true comedy genius, Akira.
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:27 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
- Replies: 37490
- Views: 3527353
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Android 19 [At his max against Vegeta but can't absorb more power] vs Piccolo [Start of the Android arc]. Future Trunks [Start of the Android arc and no Super Saiyan] vs Gohan and Krillin [Both start of the Android arc]. Chaoz [Android arc] vs 1st form Freeza [Namek arc]. Videl [Post Ki training] v...
- Fri Mar 29, 2024 11:10 am
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 34
- Views: 3408
Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
Dismissing the movie for the manga isn't right imo. The manga is pretty much a recap of the movie. Anyway I don't think it even needs to be mentioned that Gohan is rusty since he's at his weakest a while after, but the boys should be as strong as aways. The manga just confirmed they're very into tra...
- Fri Mar 22, 2024 4:28 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39977
- Views: 3981208
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
You mean a throwaway power statement from Toriyama about the movie doesn't apply to the series? This is crazy and totally unexpected!
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- Thu Mar 21, 2024 1:22 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
- Replies: 37490
- Views: 3527353
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Who is the strongest character from Dragon Ball Z current manga SSJ1 Trunks and Goten can defeat together? I have them at DBZ Gotenks level individually, so I'd say DBZ Ultimate Gohan. (DBS) Base Broly vs (DBS) 4th form Freeza Broly's power depends on his mood. If he's feeling like it, even Golden ...
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:09 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 34
- Views: 3408
Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
Most of Boo arc has similar dynamic, when characters assume someone is impressive and it turning up differently, even the most reliable ones like Piccolo, Vegeta etc. Same way in the opposite. This is usually overlooked when people crop panels instead of reading the content in its whole. Interestin...
- Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:00 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: By Super, Bulma has become corrupt like any early series villain
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1279
Re: By Super, Bulma has become corrupt like any early series villain
I wouldn't compare her to a villain, but I get the point. She's monopolizing what's supposed to be a gift from god to the humans for selfish reasons. I didn't know she had a wordwide team just for that though. I thought she either asked Goku to get them (Like in the Cell Saga), or she just gets them...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 1:48 pm
- Forum: In-Universe Discussion
- Topic: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
- Replies: 34
- Views: 3408
Re: Gotenks(Post-Rosat)>>Goku and Vegeta
I think the Daizenshuu 7 only says Vegeta and then Chozenshuu (Which is like a Daizenshuu update) adds Goku to the mix. Always found this line really weird. Goten and Trunks are super powerful and fusion is super haxed. Gotenks being on Majin Boo's level should be the bare minimum. I think the "...