Kanzenshuu

Ki Breaker wrote:

What I find hilarious about this is the fact Toriyama isn't even sure what makes Dragonball unique..

well, he didn't plan it out so why would he?

Literally everything you said here was the dumbest thing I have ever read on this site, including from the strength thread. Let's see if this is true. The execution is bad because he gave them a big story but didn't do much with it and no one would call him out on it. If someone didn't care about t...

Toriyama should just character to character designs like in GT, let someone else do the outlines. Come on, imagine how great this arc couldve been if someone like Kubo or Kishimoto were doing it instead, better character development, better antagonists that arent copy and pasty generic villain numb...

The execution is bad because he gave them something too large and let them do it themselves but the overall problem is that everyone doesn't question him even though he lets them decide everything that actual matters ? Toriyama lets everyone do whatever they want, he does not care which is why he d...

How do you know he has no plans for them ? If its because these are supposed to be the strongest of them all, may I remind you, he did the same thing with Freeza. And regardless of that, its still their execution of the events. This arc was doomed from conception based off the sheer magnitude of it...

How do you know he has no plans for them ? If its because these are supposed to be the strongest of them all, may I remind you, he did the same thing with Freeza. And regardless of that, its still their execution of the events. This arc was doomed from conception based off the sheer magnitude of it...

They hyped every character in the tournament. Kuriren got some episodes, Gohan and Piccolo got multiple episodes, 17 got some some episodes, Tenshinhan and Roshi got episodes, Freeza got some episodes, Vegeta was in the background constantly, 18 was in most Kuriren episodes as well. The fact is, so...

I guess Vegeta's the rival Beerus was looking for, because Goku would crush him with no difficulty now. That’s actually a good idea. If super ever comes back, let vegeta attain MUI fighting beerus while training, and then beerus would have wished he never met Saiyans :lol: Except that Beerus can at...

I'm not going to say, Toei doesn't care because I don't know if they personally do, its more like they simply didn't have a plan to handle everything this arc could have done. I think more of the blame is on Toriyama as it's his outline wasting everything in one go. He had no business introducing a...

This arc has legitimately been the absolute worst in all of canon dragonball If i don't include the retellings (I actually liked the BOG one though). Pacing: Absolutely horrible. Moments that have no need to be drawn out are such as Jiren constantly no selling things, vegeta fighting in base for a ...

Like many things in super, the anger is driven by expectations the fans felt the show gave them. True, the false expectations that were given by the show gave the fans the impression that they would finally see some of their favourite characters shine for a change. But did that happen? With the exc...

First of all, my apologies for taking long to reply, it was a hectic week. So, let`s go :crazy: 1. I thought you said Vegeta crying was the meme. You know because it makes him look like a fool. It is a meme and one that keeps growing as we speak. He`s got more and neither he or Yamcha are the only ...

Yep, plot. Goku is the most popular character, so he gets the most out of this fight (as predicted) And if vegeta somehow surpasses Goku in the future, it will not be at a crucial point in the battle because Goku will probably surpass him again in the Boss fight. That's how it always goes with thes...

I don't understand why people insist on citing that Vegeta did not get UI because of his personality, when in fact not even Goku himself got the UI in a '' conventional '' way, he was swallowed by a Genki Dama to be able to use the technique after '' breaking the shell '. In this case, Whis's teach...

Like many things in super, the anger is driven by expectations the fans felt the show gave them. This is why I like the manga better, there are no expectations so I'm surprised with the cool stuff and only have myself to blame with the disappointing stuff. I have argued with heror over this a thousa...

Completely agree with Akyon and Shaqazooloo. For all of the narrational posturing being used to give Krillin the allure of someone who can aptly stand on his own two feet through his own methods in this tournament with an entire host of potential sub-plot related interactive exchanges, it fell utte...

There are only 2 episodes left and the "real" fight just now begins. Rushed finale or cliffhanger? Rushed? This was dragged. There are still many things missing. Who will win the tournament, where is Freeza, Jiren's wish, Super Shenlong, the desctructed universe, party after the tournament on Earth...

Sani007 wrote:There are only 2 episodes left and the "real" fight just now begins.
Rushed finale or cliffhanger?

Rushed? This was dragged.

Here's an opinion but I enjoyed the Goku vs Kefla fight far more than I have the Jiren one. Also have a hot take but I think Goku being able to tap into UI multiple times and than master the form in the span of twentyish minutes is far worse than Caulifla and Kales power ups. Anywho here's hoping t...

Super has done this A LOT in this tournament and it's genuinely starting to annoy me now. The first 80% of every episode is usually mundane for the sake of building up to a crazy ridiculous climax. That's not how you balance a narrative. There should be build up, but not to the point where I'm just...