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I think they were supposed to be the same. I mean, the way you see it I think depends on the media, because the way I understand is that Toei didn't view those forms the same way Toriyama (and maybe Toyotaro) did.
I say this because the third transformation of Broly seen in the movie (the one ...

I wonder if the True Legendary Super Saiyan form that Kale achieved in the anime and DBS Broly did in the manga could potentially possess a bulked up version like the Type C Super Saiyan does. Or maybe the shrinking of Kale is just her version.

Same here but I still have that concern for better or worse.

I'm not sure there is a difference.

I'm a little worried about the new Super after Daima. I realize its stupid but I still worry.


... what, exactly, are you worried about?

You posted in the "In-Universe" sub-section, so I assume it has something to do with the story? Are you talking about the re-do of the "Beerus" story arc ...

I'm a little worried about the new Super after Daima. I realize its stupid but I still worry.

What if Fake SS4's power is smack dab between that of Gold Ape and Real SS4? Because I'm sure there's at least a little bias at work here, but the doofy-looking gorilla arms and uniform color kind of give me "Incomplete SS4" vibes. As if Goku just stopped halfway through the proper SS4 ...

The problem was the original Funi/Ocean dub wasn’t using the manga as a guide so they would remove important scenes from the manga too. Kami explaining to Mr.Popo that he’s sensing that the new Piccolo isn’t as evil and reiterating his connection to Piccolo for those who missed the previous ...

Okay then TV show, but I'm still worried about it. Exactly what are they going to change and include?

I'm a little worried about the upcoming Beerus film............

I prefer the design of the original SSJ4. I didn't think the new design was bad but I thought the regular forearms and fur going down to the wrist looked better. I'm still curious why both forms went with those colors. The original was combining SSJ with Oozaru while the Daima version was treated ...

Since when Toriyama's work is "not canon"? Daima is 100% "canon" whether part of fandom likes it or not. Super, unfortunately, is "canon" too. It's a mess but it is what it is.
Problem is that there's a shortlist of things that make them incompatible with one another. You can't say both are ...

The original looks better. Though I like the longer arms. I don't like the lack of fur near the wrists.

Omori wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2025 12:41 am I like the idea as well, but as of the current DBS events (about 7-8 years later) it hasn't happened yet.
On the other hand it referred to Namekians wandering around the universe ... Not sure here
Another topic for the continuity question.

Indeed.

Can we take a moment to appreciate just how powerful Ssj4 was presented in episode 20 ? This is by far the most powerful a form has been presented in since Ssj3 back in the Buu arc. We were told that Ssj4 in GT was stronger than Ssj3, and we were told how strong Super's forms were, but they never ...

I think I like the idea of some of the Namekians that left Namek after it was destroyed coming to the Demon Realm where they were born. But I would still prefer some of them to stay in the regular world.

Real SS4 from GT has a striking design that uses a mix of colors (black hair, red fur, and gold eyes in Goku's case) which makes the form visually striking and something very unique. Fake SS4 from Daima and its uniform all-magenta appearance just makes it look like a lazy recolor, right alongside ...

Lmao, anybody seen the dragonball wiki this last hour? Some admin called DragonEmeperor is edit warring with a random guy who pointed out that Goku did not have SS4 before Neva forced it to awaken or he would have used it instead of getting his ass beat by Gomah into collapsing as a SS3. They ...

JulieYBM wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2025 1:47 pm lol gokuu trained for Super Saiyan 4. amazing.

Welp, guess Vegeta's going to train for it next.

I hope so. But I doubt it. DAIMA and DBH and DBSH did right by SSJ4.

Lmao, anybody seen the dragonball wiki this last hour? Some admin called DragonEmeperor is edit warring with a random guy who pointed out that Goku did not have SS4 before Neva forced it to awaken or he would have used it instead of getting his ass beat by Gomah into collapsing as a SS3. They ...