Kanzenshuu

I disagree about Gohan being ahead of Goku mostly because, while Gohan has been practicing with his new form, Goku has a much better control over Ultra Instinct. So, the thrust of the chapter for me is that Gohan has more power and speed, but Goku has more experience and control over his skills ...

That would depend on which version of Goku that Toriyama was talking about. Probably not the Goku that we saw on chapters #102 and #103. Maybe the UI Sign version from his fight against Gas?

That doesn't work. If Piccolo is as strong as UI Sign then he really doesn't rival Goku.

How strong ...

Seems after using MUI a second time, Goku have no major difficulty.
He wasn't even 100% concentrated cause he look at Broly during the fight with Gohan.
At the end, he block Beast Gohan punch with ease. At this moment, he can use a devastating counter attack but just use a kiai to stop the ...

I read the chapter too, Gohan powered up some and then bypassed Goku's ui speed and dodging and hit him SO hard he lost UI, and apparently Gohan hasn't masted this form yet either. So in terms of power Gohan is higher but as Vegeta points out there is a gap in experience with Goku having the ...

A version that didn't have god ki,ssjg, Ssjb etc forms Goku didn't knew existed at the time and nothing repeats or mentions Beerus superiority over fusion


A version that didn't have any of those forms was still too weak to pose any real challenge to a Beerus who was holding back 90% of his ...

Indeed, Fusion is irrelevant, because Fusion remains weaker than Beerus.

Beerus was introduced as a character who is above even Fusion. That is the function of his character. It was so in BoG, and it was so in every other story arc. That has not changed.



Is there any source for this ...

Super Hero doesn't feature or even mentions fusion so it's not really relevant here.


Indeed, Fusion is irrelevant, because Fusion remains weaker than Beerus.

Beerus was introduced as a character who is above even Fusion. That is the function of his character. It was so in BoG, and it was so ...

But yeah the people who kept claiming Gohan Beast was weaker than Moro Arc SSB and current SSB are awfullllllly quiet right now :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This was a thing? :eh:

From what I’ve seen the most common assumption around here is that Gohan was relative to SSB in Ultimate and to ...

At least "Black Frieza" can now call Saiyans "Monkeys" and not get the #CancelCulture treatment. :lol:


I will never get this lame played-out joke. Saiyan's literally turn into giant space monkey's and Goku was known as a little monkey boy who is based on Sun Wukong(the monkey king). I don't ...

Idk how Toyo got folks thinking he was a good writer this is another arc the man fumble the bag on

Elec was a flop got folks thinking he was some mastermind and only to be revealed to be a scrub

Remember when this arc was about Granolah and his grudge on Saiyans/Frieza

I wish it stayed that way. He had an actually good design, strong motivation, cool techniques. Then Monaito came with his Bardock-glorifying backstory and he made 180 turn immediately. Sigh.


Granolah was honestly ...

These decisions were made during initial planning so it's not really something to be concerned about. Piccolo still helps in the climax, both he and Gohan have to be there for it to even happen.


That's cool. I like team effort vs soloing anyway :D


Yeah it's a cool combination fight ...

Damn, as much as I love Gohan, I would've loved to see Piccolo handle a movie all on his own. Eh, I suppose he wouldn't have been able to carry the movie alone. Gotta have a saiyan :D

People seem to say he is pretty much the main character so that has me vibrating with anticipation. Never ...

So Big Green was supposed to be the MC solo but honestly Gohan being in makes sense Piccolo himself carrying the movie wouldn't do mad numbers at the box office

So him and Gohan together would

Oh well can't be mad Piccolo got a W in the Film

I agree about Toppo and Vegeta (And by consequence, late ToP KKx20 Goku) > Kefla, though I’m not sure about how to making that work without bloating things a bit more.

I always thought SSJB Gogeta could make short work of Broly, just look at what he does to Broly. But like someone said, the ...

Supreme has a point people took Shin Line out of proportion

And I feel people are taking Vegeta line too seriously he's still a relevant Benchmark next too Beerus and Broly

Sorry guys, but I believe this is where Dragon Ball met its path to become more like Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokémon type of franchises.
Storytelling just doesn't matter anymore, they gotta sell the toys , no matter what!

It all adds up to THIS!


Looking to these spoilers just shows once again, how ...

Or hear me out
She was a baby when she did that and forgot how to fly over time
Caulifla forgot how to turn Ssj2 until she Goku gave her the pointers
Piccolo outright forgot his Giant form despite the Moro arc happening
So it ain't impossible to believe Pan forgot how to fly sometime after ...

I think Gohan chooses what he can or can't catch. :P

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My Japanese is poor and it was way past my bed time but


I didn’t hear any mention of the Tenkaichi Budokai. Pan’s age is mentioned a few times in the movie, the first time being when ...

According to geekdom this movie has much more story and dialogue, but yes the overall marketing for this movie was very poor.


"more story" :D :D :D :D :D

Piccolo is attacked > Pan is kidnapped > Gohan rushes to save her > Goku, Vegeta and Broly fanservice scene > Few scenes of secondary ...