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by Whatever
Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta in Dragon Ball Super: Anime x manga
Replies: 39
Views: 5539

Re: Vegeta in Dragon Ball Super: Anime x manga

It's not really out of character considering that he destroyed the potora while he was inside Buu after he absorbed them. [spoiler] https://78.media.tumblr.com/152db7623a1fca0eb4aa60afcf7d1d47/tumblr_inline_n7g3e70iU51s9z85u.jpg [/spoiler] And during during the kid buu situation Goku denies fusing ...
by Whatever
Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:22 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?
Replies: 65
Views: 7148

Re: Is the criticism against everyone getting the Super Saiyan form a legitimate one?

Movie 6 was a different issue, but regardless, characters can be wrong or once again be hyperbolic, and as we see the gods in DB are often wrong. Kaio made big mistakes and Kaioshin made the motherload of mistakes. Limitations makes for more creativity. Adding a number to SSJ isn't creative. And gi...
by Whatever
Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:03 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta in Dragon Ball Super: Anime x manga
Replies: 39
Views: 5539

Re: Vegeta in Dragon Ball Super: Anime x manga

Did you mistake manga Vegeta for GT Vegeta by any chance? [spoiler] https://i.imgur.com/KXSZr1x.png [/spoiler] [spoiler] https://i.imgur.com/2ZoW9rF.png [/spoiler] After this, Vegeta who has the initiative to do the merger with Goku, even refusing initially. [spoiler] https://scontent.fssa2-1.fna.f...
by Whatever
Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:42 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta in Dragon Ball Super: Anime x manga
Replies: 39
Views: 5539

Re: Vegeta in Dragon Ball Super: Anime x manga

An issue I have with Vegeta in the anime is that, unless he is directly interacting with his family or Cabba, he often acts like his Cell-era self. The manga does a much better job of portraying the Vegeta we were left with at the end of the Boo arc. He proposes merging to Goku . He's generally war...
by Whatever
Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:47 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: How will they fix the writing problem that Super had?
Replies: 182
Views: 19785

Re: How will they fix the writing problem that Super had?

Piccolo is weaker than the adult SSJs in the Buu saga. That's all you need to know about his power because anyone not on par with a SSJ was trash at that point. His standing is literally the same as it is by the end of the Cell Games. That depens on what you mean,in the Cell games only Vegeta,Trunk...
by Whatever
Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: How will they fix the writing problem that Super had?
Replies: 182
Views: 19785

Re: How will they fix the writing problem that Super had?

Anyway I could probably go on and on, but this stuff combined with the infamous stamina meme brought the writing in this arc down, and the writing down of Super as a whole. No real consistency or knowing where exactly certain character stand at times since how strong characters are seems to be cons...
by Whatever
Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:45 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta in Dragon Ball Super: Anime x manga
Replies: 39
Views: 5539

Re: Vegeta in Dragon Ball Super: Anime x manga

In the manga he is treated better because Toyotaro favors him A LOT to the point he structures the narrative around Vegeta so he won't ever be humiliated. In the anime he is written better so by default he is a better character,one major example so far is how different anime and manga Vegeta were in...
by Whatever
Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:27 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Now that Super is finished, what is the overall consensus of the series?
Replies: 65
Views: 9876

Re: Now that Super is finished, what is the overall consensus of the series?

Honestly, as for my own personal most prominent thought about this series as a whole? 131 Goddamn episodes and Gohan NEVER got to be awesome, not even once. As of now he is still weaker than shit when compared against other fighters. Goku, Vegeta, 17, Freeza, Future Trunks. What do thse guys have i...
by Whatever
Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:20 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42701
Views: 5762750

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Maybe we have different ideas of coming full circle. We’re looking at character who were woefully outclassed since the Saiyan arc, who have been out of commission for literal decades both in and out of universe, and see them suddenly pop in, in under 48 hours and perform. I said full circle in rega...
by Whatever
Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
Replies: 954
Views: 120266

Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion

True, but I think the argument was that they were going to get eliminated pretty quickly either way without many eliminations. I've totaled up the anime version of things and generously applied assists and overlaps. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39114 Krillin 3 Roshi 5 Tien 2 Tota...
by Whatever
Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:43 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42701
Views: 5762750

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Again, the manga didn't promise any of these characters would be big players. In fact, it made it clear that Tenshinhan, Roshi and Krillin are only there because they need 10 people. The anime made a big deal out of them being on the team, and then relegated them to episodes and episodes of being o...
by Whatever
Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Goku-Vegeta rivalry is the most overrated rivalry in fiction and should be concluded in Super
Replies: 73
Views: 11546

Re: The Goku-Vegeta rivalry is the most overrated rivalry in fiction and should be concluded in Super

So It's OK for the anime to make him look bad while it's wrong for the manga to make him look good ? what's wrong with getting the point of Goku being stronger across without dragging Vegeta through the mud in the process ? Toyotaro makes Vegeta look good at the expense of the antagonists,with weak...
by Whatever
Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:41 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Goku-Vegeta rivalry is the most overrated rivalry in fiction and should be concluded in Super
Replies: 73
Views: 11546

Re: The Goku-Vegeta rivalry is the most overrated rivalry in fiction and should be concluded in Super

,Toyotaro is treating Vegeta better due to his favoritism of him. He said his favorite was Goku so him treating Vegeta better than the anime does has to do with good writing and balancing his role with Goku's. Despite all he's given Vegeta, he still made sure to give just as much if not more to Gok...
by Whatever
Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:18 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
Replies: 954
Views: 120266

Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion

I have to disagree with you about episode 97, it was an absolutely horrendous start to the tournament. None of the action felt at all connected, there was ridiculous amount of re-used animation, the storyboarding was pretty abysmal, and direction was equally as awful. For me and a lot of others, it...
by Whatever
Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:31 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can you revive someone who has already been reincarnated?
Replies: 6
Views: 1132

Re: Can you revive someone who has already been reincarnated?

In Uub's case,nope unless its a time travel/wrap related wish like 'make it so Kid Buu was never reincarnated and ressurect him',most likely only possible through Super Shenron.Since Uub is a clean 100% reincarnation. In Piccolo's case through,its more complicated and not as simple,since Piccolo Jun...
by Whatever
Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:11 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: The Goku-Vegeta rivalry is the most overrated rivalry in fiction and should be concluded in Super
Replies: 73
Views: 11546

Re: The Goku-Vegeta rivalry is the most overrated rivalry in fiction and should be concluded in Super

Toyotaro goes a long way to correcting this, resulting in a vastly superior product. Toyotaro has gone a long way in correcting Super as a whole so hopefully when it returns (or if a new anime takes its place) it'll be based off his manga, not whatever generic writer #8 is doing that week. You both...
by Whatever
Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:23 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion
Replies: 954
Views: 120266

Re: Super's Manga vs Super's Anime Discussion

So with the tournament officially fledged into full gear, with the manga being two chapters in and the anime about to end, what do people think of the manga's adaptation thus far? I have to say, I feel the manga does a better job at presenting the opening fights of the tournament and actually makin...
by Whatever
Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:36 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Goku's exact wins-loss/defeats ratio in Dragon Ball Z and Super
Replies: 18
Views: 8008

Re: Goku's exact wins-loss/defeats ratio in Dragon Ball Z and Super

3)Goku vs. Vegeta LOST. He survived only thanks to Gohan and Krillin The battle went from 1VS1 to 4vs1 but despite him barely be able to move,his team won so this is close to a Goku and Piccolo vs. Raditz scenario,not a clean win but not a clean loss either. 2)Goku vs. Majin Vegeta LOST: even thoug...
by Whatever
Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:36 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Super's power levels are much lower than GT
Replies: 309
Views: 51267

Re: Dragon Ball Super's power levels are much lower than GT

For someone who criticizes someone about GT knowledge,you sure seem to not know or ignore that the GT perfect files compare ssj4 Goku to Buu saga Vegeto Perfect Files NEVER said anything like that. The same goes for base Goku being equal to his SSJ3 self from Z. You just repeat fake bullshit "...
by Whatever
Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:47 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: It blows my mind how irrelevant Trunks/Goten were for all 131 Super episodes
Replies: 73
Views: 11115

Re: It blows my mind how irrelevant Trunks/Goten were for all 131 Super episodes

So if Goten and Trunks were on Gohan's current power level in DBS, they'd still be jokes? It has plenty to do with power but since they're not strong enough to the rest of the crew they don't get relevant screen time. To answer your question ask yourself this. In the buu arc as Gotenks they were th...