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by Whatever
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:19 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29784
Views: 1892619

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Should people never mention anything that they've never seen before? Is this a specific circumstance where someone's opinion can be wrong? The fact is that people will have impressions about things they haven't seen, and even though they obviously aren't as useful as fully formed opinions when it c...
by Whatever
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:37 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 29784
Views: 1892619

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

You can't really call someone wrong for having an opinion. The scene is remarkably stupid, for the basic reasons TKA mentioned and a few he didn't - mainly, the scene is there because of the Super anime's habit of trying to recapture prior moments of glory, which are never as good as the first time...
by Whatever
Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:18 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Let's talk about Piccolo
Replies: 47
Views: 2111

Re: Let's talk about Piccolo

Eh i will give you Gamisaras but Shantza was not a threat at all,without Gamisaras(or was it Damon)Shantaza's illusions would be harmless illusions. Right. The point of Shantza's ability is that it made an invisible opponent even harder to track, so he played a supportive role for his team rather t...
by Whatever
Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:18 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Let's talk about Piccolo
Replies: 47
Views: 2111

Re: Let's talk about Piccolo

Gamisaras was clearly established as a fairly dangerous threat. Shantza's illusion technique was implied to cause some trouble before it was quickly thwarted by Piccolo's intervention. These eliminations weren't super major or anything, but it's not like they were more irrelevant than appropriate f...
by Whatever
Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:37 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Let's talk about Piccolo
Replies: 47
Views: 2111

Re: Let's talk about Piccolo

As others have mentioned, the point was to showcase their over-reliance one ki sensing. Yes, it was poorly handled but my assumption has always been that there was no other sense they could have used to give 17 the advantage in. In Buu he had been taken out of the fighting role almost completely. I...
by Whatever
Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:14 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Let's talk about Piccolo
Replies: 47
Views: 2111

Re: Let's talk about Piccolo

I seriously don't see that. As I said, despite being having suffered two losses in DBS, none of them were from getting overpowered or getting a beat down - it was through cheating and tricks even others had fallen for. Against Frost he got his victory taken from him by his own teamate and Vegeta,Fr...
by Whatever
Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:33 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Let's talk about Piccolo
Replies: 47
Views: 2111

Re: Let's talk about Piccolo

] I disagree, because I don't think Toriyama particularly cares that much about any character, despite claiming he has favorites. If he comes up with a compelling story for Piccolo, I think he'll use it, but if not, he won't rack his brain to develop one. 17 being written out makes little differenc...
by Whatever
Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:48 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Let's talk about Piccolo
Replies: 47
Views: 2111

Re: Let's talk about Piccolo

How many topics do we have about this,I think people need to take a hint and realise that Piccolo has gotten to the point of no return. . As many as people want as long as they feel like talking about it? I share your pessimism on the matter for the most part, but it's still an issue I like talking...
by Whatever
Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:15 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Let's talk about Piccolo
Replies: 47
Views: 2111

Re: Let's talk about Piccolo

How many topics do we have about this,I think people need to take a hint and realise that Piccolo has gotten to the point of no return. Outside of Toyotaro not caring about him(or even know how to write him) or Toei using him as a drama tool and giving him a pointless death in both GT and Super. Tor...
by Whatever
Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:19 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14160
Views: 772268

Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

Ki Breaker wrote:I keep forgetting Freeza is now a thing..
Now if Freeza is gonna be a recurring thing I hope Villans confuse the z fighters as the Freeza force from now on..
They are gonna see Gohan posing one day and think he is part of the ginyu squad.
by Whatever
Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14160
Views: 772268

Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

I'd rather there be no henchmen or mooks. Surely they could have a way of making others relevant without fighting mooks stalling for Goku to come and save the day! Where they all scream "Goku" collectively with tears of joy. I really don't trust Toriyama at all. Why my expectations for anyone other...
by Whatever
Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:29 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Should Piccolo have trained with Whis?
Replies: 35
Views: 1735

Re: Should Piccolo have trained with Whis?

I dunno, every time Goku or Gohan power up after exiting the RoSaT, Vegeta's stunned, sweating, and shaking. Not the reaction I'd expect from someone who could just one-up that. I wouldn't let non-story information like multipliers and form distinctions get in the way of seeing what the actual stor...
by Whatever
Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Should Piccolo have trained with Whis?
Replies: 35
Views: 1735

Re: Should Piccolo have trained with Whis?

Trunks and Vegeta should have improved more than Goku in the Cell Saga since they sparred with each other, while Goku only had Gohan who was vastly weaker for months before he got Super Saiyan and they didn't even used the entire year. Yes, Goku only had Gohan, who, not even by the end of a year (a...
by Whatever
Thu May 24, 2018 6:12 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Why do fans of One Piece and Naruto criticize Dragon Ball a lot?
Replies: 81
Views: 4070

Re: why do fans of One Piece and Naruto Shippuden critisize Dragon Ball a lot?

Gohan was also mighty set off by Dodoria slaughtering Dende's whole village (including his father and brother). He also didn't know Yamucha, Tenshinhan, and Chaozu from a hole in the wall during the fight against Nappa and the Saibaimen, and was shown to be pretty markedly upset and traumatized by ...
by Whatever
Thu May 24, 2018 5:45 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Should Piccolo have trained with Whis?
Replies: 35
Views: 1735

Re: Should Piccolo have trained with Whis?

It would have made sense if he did but he is not relevant enough to train with Whis and thats why he did not. Whis wouldn't train him unless he felt like Piccolo could one day Rival Beerus which is probably not happening since he doesn't have bs saiyan genetics. Gohan on the other hand should have t...
by Whatever
Wed May 23, 2018 4:14 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Why do fans of One Piece and Naruto criticize Dragon Ball a lot?
Replies: 81
Views: 4070

Re: why do fans of One Piece and Naruto Shippuden critisize Dragon Ball a lot?

Gohan is out of character at the Cell Games: Yeah, I'll agree that him not wanting to fight isn't presented as well as it should have been. That said, him being set off by seeing someone die tracks perfectly fine. Yes, he barely knew the guy, and his friends were being beaten. But there's a differe...
by Whatever
Tue May 22, 2018 3:22 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Why do fans of One Piece and Naruto criticize Dragon Ball a lot?
Replies: 81
Views: 4070

Re: why do fans of One Piece and Naruto Shippuden critisize Dragon Ball a lot?

[ Literally every single citation you make here has been for decades, is actively right now, and will continue to be argued for decades both as "good" and "bad" by actual, honest-to-goodness, genuine fans of the franchise. Please refrain from making these kinds of gross generalizations about what p...
by Whatever
Tue May 22, 2018 3:02 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Why do fans of One Piece and Naruto criticize Dragon Ball a lot?
Replies: 81
Views: 4070

Re: why do fans of One Piece and Naruto Shippuden critisize Dragon Ball a lot?

For its many flaws,not like those series are not flawed but dragonball tends to be the most flawed yet most popular out of those 3. ...seem to act as "answers" to some of Dragon Ball's perceived shortcomings, flaws, and problems. It doesn't balance its cast well enough, its world and lore aren't con...
by Whatever
Tue May 22, 2018 2:20 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Which would Goku pick : Fighting or Family ?
Replies: 23
Views: 1199

Re: Which would Goku pick : Fighting or Family ?

As Goku has shown before,he can live whatever in the afterlife or on the world of the living without his family but thats not the case with fighting. He would get sad about his family but he would get over it,without fighting he would be depressed. Of course if he made the choice himself he would ch...
by Whatever
Mon May 21, 2018 8:38 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why didn't Goku turn SSJ3 in his fight against Majin Vegeta?
Replies: 13
Views: 991

Re: Why didn't Goku turn SSJ3 in his fight against Majin Vegeta?

Out of universe reason:Toriyama had not invented the form yet

In universe reason:Goku is a liar/hypocrite or forgot how to do it,maybe a combination of all 3.