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by Melee_Sovereign
Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:12 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: My biggest issue with Super
Replies: 70
Views: 836

Re: My biggest issue with Super

Mad Swami wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:08 pm

Yes Goku as SSJ3 was always stronger. I think he was saying Base Goku never reaches that level which he doesn't because that would be silly
Well Base Goku isn't as strong as Hit or Jiren either.
by Melee_Sovereign
Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:00 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: My biggest issue with Super
Replies: 70
Views: 836

Re: My biggest issue with Super

Progressed, definitely, but to the point of being stronger than pure Buu? That's pure conjecture. If we're strictly talking power, Goku's SSJ3 form was already more powerful than pure Buu. The problem was it rapidly drains ki, which starkly contrasted with Buu's apparent limitless stamina, and endu...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:36 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: My biggest issue with Super
Replies: 70
Views: 836

Re: My biggest issue with Super

Mad Swami wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:30 pm

I think your miss remembering the scene. Goku is giddy with excitement at the prospect of fighting Uub
Being excited about fighting someone, isn't necessarily the same as seeing them as a rival.
by Melee_Sovereign
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:34 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: My biggest issue with Super
Replies: 70
Views: 836

Re: My biggest issue with Super

That's not immediately obvious. It's extremely likely. Only way it isn't is, Uub indeed was born far stronger than Kid Buu, or Goku didn't progress at all between the time of Kid Buu's defeat and EoZ (ignoring Super even exists). Which, come on, this is Goku we're talking about. He certainly progre...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:26 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: My biggest issue with Super
Replies: 70
Views: 836

Re: My biggest issue with Super

Goku even says "After I train you we can then fight and go all out! Doesn't that sound amazing!" Which doesn't make them rivals. It makes them sparring partners. Broly, he actually sees as a friendly rival, hence "call me Kakarot" type thing. It's simply two different types of character relationshi...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: My biggest issue with Super
Replies: 70
Views: 836

Re: My biggest issue with Super

ABED wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:28 pm

I don't have a clue what you mean.
Goku was far stronger than Uub EoZ, even if we pay no consideration to DBSuper.
by Melee_Sovereign
Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:37 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball references in other media
Replies: 23
Views: 2494

Re: Dragon Ball references in other media

Fairly Oddparents has an episode where Timmy enters the world of various TV shows, all of which are a reference to real life TV shows. One of them is a clear DBZ reference. Time stamp at 11:29.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvREIlxLWtM&t=683s
by Melee_Sovereign
Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:19 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: My biggest issue with Super
Replies: 70
Views: 836

Re: My biggest issue with Super

ABED wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:08 am

Except the point about Goku having far surpassed Buu by that point.
A fact that predates Super even being a thought in anyone's mind. Yet, here Uub was in the story.
by Melee_Sovereign
Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:01 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: My biggest issue with Super
Replies: 70
Views: 836

Re: My biggest issue with Super

My point is why focus on grooming Uub to be his rival when he can fight Broly a bunch. I don't think the focus was ever Uub being groomed into being a rival. From what I remember, it was more of an apprenticeship type relationship. Uub could even be the first step of Goku maturing. People, as they ...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sun Jan 19, 2020 3:28 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: My biggest issue with Super
Replies: 70
Views: 836

Re: My biggest issue with Super

Why would Goku after befriending Broly, Jiren, or even Hit for that matter care about Uub. Why wouldn't he care? He's Goku. He likes meeting people who are strong, and he tends to be encouraging of those with that type of potential, even if they are significantly weaker than himself or other oppone...
by Melee_Sovereign
Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:08 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 12025
Views: 629852

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Novantico wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:28 pm

Is it still an unpopular opinion to think Goku's actually a pretty good father?
In Z, he was a good father (who made occasional mistakes), and all the memes of him being a bad father at that time were just ridiculous and stupid. In Super, they actually kind of turned him into a bad father.
by Melee_Sovereign
Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:01 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If You Could Rewrite the Dragon Ball Manga, How Would You Do It?
Replies: 23
Views: 662

Re: If You Could Rewrite the Dragon Ball Manga, How Would You Do It?

Robo4900 wrote:
Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:55 pm

Dragon Balls, that can be used by the villains.
It can only be used directly by deities. If they just so happen to be villainous deities, then yeah. But villains are more likely to use the regular Dragon Balls.
by Melee_Sovereign
Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:53 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If You Could Rewrite the Dragon Ball Manga, How Would You Do It?
Replies: 23
Views: 662

Re: If You Could Rewrite the Dragon Ball Manga, How Would You Do It?

I'd make it so that the dragon balls aren't nearly as much of a crutch as they are. There ought to be some sort of consequence to using them a lot, and/or they should be far more difficult to obtain. Or maybe I would just limit their power more. Personally, I'd build that into the Dragon Balls at t...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:55 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If You Could Rewrite the Dragon Ball Manga, How Would You Do It?
Replies: 23
Views: 662

Re: If You Could Rewrite the Dragon Ball Manga, How Would You Do It?

I'd make it so that the dragon balls aren't nearly as much of a crutch as they are. There ought to be some sort of consequence to using them a lot, and/or they should be far more difficult to obtain. Or maybe I would just limit their power more.
by Melee_Sovereign
Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What Would It Take For Krillin, Tien, Piccolo, and Yamcha to Catch up to Goku and Vegeta in a Satisfying Way?
Replies: 31
Views: 787

Re: What Would It Take For Krillin, Tien, Piccolo, and Yamcha to Catch up to Goku and Vegeta in a Satisfying Way?

As said above, they could be haxed. I've always wanted to see Tien combine Kikoho with Kaioken. He could also maybe figure out a way to use Multiform without it splitting his power apart. Maybe instead, Multiform could come with a different compromise, like maybe it increases ki consumption by 4x (i...
by Melee_Sovereign
Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:40 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Unpopular DB opinions
Replies: 12025
Views: 629852

Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Don't hate on anything. It's fine if it's not to your liking but there's no reason to hate a movie or a TV show. I dunno, I think there are things out there that are genuinely hate worthy. Slenderman movie comes to mind. That movie was unbearable. I will say though, that I do think people tend to h...
by Melee_Sovereign
Fri Dec 20, 2019 5:25 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: King Piccolo and Dr. Gero both got their revenge
Replies: 35
Views: 798

Re: King Piccolo and Dr. Gero both got their revenge

All he seems to be is the "Perfect Lifeform" I'm pretty sure that's it. All Gero wanted to do was create the ultimate being. Why? As far as I tell, because he could. It's really not all that uncommon for scientists and engineers to develop things just to see if they can, out of sheer curiosity and/...
by Melee_Sovereign
Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:57 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: King Piccolo and Dr. Gero both got their revenge
Replies: 35
Views: 798

Re: King Piccolo and Dr. Gero both got their revenge

All he seems to be is the "Perfect Lifeform" I'm pretty sure that's it. All Gero wanted to do was create the ultimate being. Why? As far as I tell, because he could. It's really not all that uncommon for scientists and engineers to develop things just to see if they can, out of sheer curiosity and/...
by Melee_Sovereign
Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Who is the most dangerous person that zamasu could trade bodies with?
Replies: 13
Views: 331

Re: Who is the most dangerous person that zamasu could trade bodies with?

idk, but I'd imagine he'd be able to unlock a lot of potential with Perfect Cell's body.
by Melee_Sovereign
Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:36 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: King Piccolo and Dr. Gero both got their revenge
Replies: 35
Views: 798

Re: King Piccolo and Dr. Gero both got their revenge

I'm pretty sure Cell specifically wasn't created to kill Goku. Just the Androids.