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If it wasn't for that panel of Vegeta looking angrily at the sky and that message saying the goal of their training is to defeat Black Freeza, plus the movie implication that Freeza was after Broly or something, then perhaps I could give a little bit of credence to the "oh Freeza's thing is done ...

If you honestly think Frieza has not changed and is still as evil and malicious as he was before especially towards Goku and co, then you honestly haven't been paying attention to either the anime or manga. He's not "redeemed" but he's not the same pure enemy from before. After Frieza kicked Goku ...

I'm wondering how this Black Frieza arc will be structured

I loved the Granolah arc but I hope the pacing is like the Android/Cell arc with a new Hero showing up to help us/warn us against Frieza (no Time Travel though). Training montage, some lower tier threats show up, bigger threats show up ...

With this dealing with Saiyan history I hope Beerus' role in their planet's destruction becomes fully known to everyone.

He just allowed authorization. He played almost no role whatsoever. Freeza probably was worried Beerus wouldn't approve of him doing his job of destroying stuff without ...

precita wrote:Freeza is probably in the flashbacks when Broly is a baby, we don't know if he's in the present day of the movie. We don't need Freeza teaming up with Goku AGAIN.

Imagine being this delusional. Frieza is in the present plot of the movie and likely past flashbacks as well. Deal with it.

Who cares? he is still there for fanservice, they could've bring someone else back than Freezer in the TOP if they really wanted to.

They couldn't. He was the man for the role. Him being in the movie makes sense since it literally takes place after ToP.

By your nonsensical logic Goku, Vegeta ...

This new Broly is a completely new character + this movie is about Saiyan's origins, and Broly will serve the story. Stop bashing Broly just because you don't like him, there's also Freezer in the movie, but people don't say anything about him being in the movie.

Maybe because Frieza was ...

I enjoy seeing Vegeta cower before Broly, and I hope we get more of that. Broly might be a mediocre character, but it's completely worth it if it knocks vegetable head down a notch or two.
I hope Broly makes Vegeta cry like Frieza and Jiren made him cry.
I willing to BET Vegeta won’t get a worse ...

You know who else they could do something interesting and exciting?

Someone completely new, and not even saiya-jin, you know, something that shows they can do something besides being stagnant. This new Broly is a completely new character + this movie is about Saiyan's origins, and Broly will serve ...

Nineteen wrote:I enjoy seeing Vegeta cower before Broly, and I hope we get more of that. Broly might be a mediocre character, but it's completely worth it if it knocks vegetable head down a notch or two.

I hope Broly makes Vegeta cry like Frieza and Jiren made him cry.

Nickolaidas wrote:Wow, so Vegeta will get thrashed again by the actual Legendary Super Saiyan? In Blue, no less.

Really excited to see how this will play out. But Broly becoming 'canon' will definitely be interesting. Perhaps Cooler is next. (Sylvestro voice: YEEEEETHHH ...)

Yeah I cant wait for this movie

I hope Broly is using Freeza as a sleigh in this movie.
Nah Broly will use Jobgeta as the sleigh instead. Like he used him for clothesline practice in the original film.
Nah. Freeza’s lookin like the new jobber. They make a huge emphasis on the fate of Goku, Vegeta, and Broly. That makes Freeza ...

Cetra wrote:I hope Broly is using Freeza as a sleigh in this movie.

Nah Broly will use Jobgeta as the sleigh instead. Like he used him for clothesline practice in the original film.

Frieza literally laughed it off. He was sandbagging for fun. He even got mad at Goku for interfering in his fight just when he was about to get serious. Kale's power level is just a Toyo thing not a Toriyama thing.
You got translations of those images with context?
But the same Goku (remind you ...

There is no clear evidence that blue and golden are equal in the manga because we never saw that fight.

You saw RoF SSB Goku vs Golden Freeza. Golden Freeza is stronger than he was in RoF. He got beaten by BSSJ Kale. This means by logic that BSSJ is already greater than a RoF SSB Goku. Yes, we ...

The U6 Saiyans should stay in the trash can. This movie should and will be exclusive to U7 Saiyans and Frieza only.

omg Her muscular mode could hurt golden frieza! toyo just gave kale even more asspull than the anime.
Would you people pay attention. It's no magic trick in the anime or manga that Kale is blue level and more. Her potential threat was just represented to be that strong.
In the anime she walked ...

So in the manga, Kale is stronger than Golden Freeza by a wide margin and even with CSSB Goku?

This is just insane

True Golden Frieza is on par with CSSB Goku and even then Goku was getting pushed back. Frieza wasn't even taking Kale that seriously seeing as he was smiling and laughing about ...

Also, it seems that SSB Goku did land a direct blow to BSSJ Kale that hurt her. The fight between Goku and Kale wasn't over. It got interrupted, so there's no way to say. However, I'm pretty sure that Base Kale > SSJ Cabba and SSJ Caulifla, which means > Base Goku and Vegeta too.

No CSSB Goku ...

Miracles wrote:Who hear wants to bet Freeza most likely won't be involved in the main story but will have an appearance in the Flashback about Saiyan heritage?

Only someone in denial would think Frieza won't be involved in the present as well as the past.