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by SupremeKai25
Sun May 05, 2024 5:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: goku won the fight against cell, cell surviving is a plot hole and the english dub is to blame.
Replies: 9
Views: 216

Re: goku won the fight against cell, cell surviving is a plot hole and the english dub is to blame.

This is the biggest asspull in the entire franchise, that makes anything from Super look tame in comparison. :) Not to mention how Cell derives his regenerative factor from Piccolo, but Piccolo most certainly can't regenerate from just one brain cell. Yes...Piccolo mentioned in Buu Saga he can rege...
by SupremeKai25
Sun May 05, 2024 3:21 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1117
Views: 87794

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

No one would call the DBS anime "groundbreaking", but at the end of the day it was decent promotion for the manga and the films. Actually, I would, since it was indeed "groundbreaking". If it wasn't, it wouldn't have been live-streamed in front of thousands of people in huge pub...
by SupremeKai25
Sun May 05, 2024 12:58 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: goku won the fight against cell, cell surviving is a plot hole and the english dub is to blame.
Replies: 9
Views: 216

Re: goku won the fight against cell, cell surviving is a plot hole and the english dub is to blame.

Yes, you are wrong in your thinking. Goku didn't blow Cell up, Cell blew himself up and Cell came back so I'm not sure why it matters? You're gonna hold onto a line that makes no sense in spite of what actually happened on panel/screen? Goku also wasn't fighting Cell anymore. Gohan was and Cell blo...
by SupremeKai25
Sun May 05, 2024 5:49 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1117
Views: 87794

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

Other anime has surpassed Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z That's all subjective you know. For me and many other people, DB franchise stands at the top. Most of these other anime wouldn't exist without it either... Most anime wouldn't exist without Kimba The White Lion, including Dragon Ball itself. T...
by SupremeKai25
Fri May 03, 2024 11:43 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Replies: 51
Views: 1254

Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about

It's not a matter of intelligence. Vegeta only agreed to fall under Babidi's spell because Goku was only in the living world for a day. So no, without Goku, the Buu arc doesn't happen. He didn't get possessed due to Goku only being on earth for 1 day. You're missing his point. If Goku hadn't come t...
by SupremeKai25
Wed May 01, 2024 5:33 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: How strong is Base Vegetto (Manga)?
Replies: 57
Views: 9795

Re: How strong is Base Vegetto (Manga)?

Strong enough to destroy half of Fused Zamasu after eating a Senzu bean to get full power, which actually doesn't mean anything, since an Exhausted Super Vegeta was also able to destroy half of Perfect Cell despite not standing a chance against him. Surprise attacks against an off-guard opponent are...
by SupremeKai25
Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:22 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: goku won the fight against cell, cell surviving is a plot hole and the english dub is to blame.
Replies: 9
Views: 216

Re: goku won the fight against cell, cell surviving is a plot hole and the english dub is to blame.

If anything I think the dub actually tried to fill that plot hole. Because in the manga and the Japanese dialogue Cell does very specifically say "As long as the core in my head remains undamaged, I can regenerate from anything." Which makes no sense in light of Goku blowing his entire up...
by SupremeKai25
Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:53 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: goku won the fight against cell, cell surviving is a plot hole and the english dub is to blame.
Replies: 9
Views: 216

Re: goku won the fight against cell, cell surviving is a plot hole and the english dub is to blame.

This is the biggest asspull in the entire franchise, that makes anything from Super look tame in comparison. :)

Not to mention how Cell derives his regenerative factor from Piccolo, but Piccolo most certainly can't regenerate from just one brain cell.
by SupremeKai25
Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:28 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Replies: 51
Views: 1254

Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about

Well, No, because ultimately Trunks creates an entire parallel universe where Zamasu is stopped from causing any harm. So he still suceeds in creating a peaceful world, so it's a positive ending. Just like at the end of the Cell arc when he returns to the future to stop the androids, thusly restori...
by SupremeKai25
Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:03 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Replies: 51
Views: 1254

Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about

I'd actually say it's quite clear from early on Goku cares a lot about the Earth. In the Pilaf arc (and to an extent the Red Ribbon Army arc) there's a lot of chill time that utilises the environment and setting as a mood. Seeing things like Goku running through the fields and fending for himself e...
by SupremeKai25
Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:22 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Replies: 51
Views: 1254

Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about

Furthermore, it's OOC for Goku to suddenly care about the Earth, when he was willing to doom the entire Universe in the next arc just to have a good fight with Kid Buu. I'd actually say it's quite clear from early on Goku cares a lot about the Earth. In the Pilaf arc (and to an extent the Red Ribbo...
by SupremeKai25
Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:00 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Replies: 51
Views: 1254

Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about

I mean, if the point is that Goku invites evildoers, then that point is invalidated by Babidi and co. invading even though Goku is dead. You are taking that point entirely too literally. Goku shows up for the Tenkaichi Budokai and guess what? A universe ending threat is there waiting for them. When...
by SupremeKai25
Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:55 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1117
Views: 87794

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

I doubt there will be any transformations in this show.

From the trailer alone, this show seems to be as far-removed from an edgy battle fiesta like the Cell or Baby saga as possible.

I certainly don't expect to see any corny/edgy stuff like SS4 in this show.
by SupremeKai25
Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:50 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1117
Views: 87794

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

Remember, up until SSJ4, transformations weren't a big focus in GT either. They were there, but they were very sparsely used for unknown reasons, most fans theorizing it was to conserve energy. Good point. I just wonder if Daima might attempt to recapture the 'magic' of SSJ by sort of going back to...
by SupremeKai25
Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39975
Views: 3959823

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Who will master the ultimate technique of the gods in Ultra Instinct and become the strongest? Goku or Vegeta [Naturally Goku]. Who is suppose to "rival" the "strongest/most feared entity in the universe [Behind Whis]" Beerus? Goku or Vegeta. This is all due to training consiste...
by SupremeKai25
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:47 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: If Zamasu came back
Replies: 50
Views: 4649

Re: If Zamasu came back

Shenlong restoring a dead person to life feels like an "asspull"? Sorry Bora, back in the ground you go. Uhm, I was obviously referring to Frieza becoming billions or trillions of times stronger in 4 months of training. The manner in which Frieza was forced into the narrative for the nost...
by SupremeKai25
Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:25 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1117
Views: 87794

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

I wonder why Toriyama had such a big soft spot for Shin. Because the Kais in general are a unique race in this setting. Unlike the average, they trade brute strength for technique, finesse, and hax, on top of having intriguing lore as the overseers of the Universe who live in their own special real...
by SupremeKai25
Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:21 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about
Replies: 51
Views: 1254

Re: The reason Goku stayed dead that no one talks about

So Goku is basically the Saviour who "died for our sins"? The Cell saga is so funny, it's not even Dragon Ball. It's Naruto. So edgy, corny, melodramatic, and sanctimonious that saga is. Boy am I glad that Super has nothing in common with the Cell saga! If Goku is supposed to be a true neu...
by SupremeKai25
Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:53 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: If Zamasu came back
Replies: 50
Views: 4649

Re: If Zamasu came back

I mean, Zamasu was granted Invinicibility by a set of Dragon Balls that can allegedly grant any wish imaginable. Are we really supposed to believe that Zamasu is gone-gone? It feels like he could come back at any moment with the excuse "Oh Zeno can't over-ride the Super Dragon Balls after all&q...
by SupremeKai25
Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:42 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Losing interest in DB
Replies: 23
Views: 1008

Re: Losing interest in Dragon Ball

What we are missing right now is an ORIGINAL villain. A newly-arrived villain that we know nothing about, like Black in 2016 and Moro in 2019. That invites speculation and tension. Frieza is neither original nor unique, as everything about him was already answered 30 years ago. I agree with this, t...