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I don't want to go into the Future Trunks Saga stuff much yet because I haven't got around to rewatching it and I want to pay attention at the time but how strong do people think Trunks is really?

Would Base Trunks easily beat the tar out of Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks? He'd appear to be at least ...

With regards to Vegeta, the showrunners have pretty much stated that SSBE is Vegeta's equivalent to SSB/KK that Goku possesses, whom was only potentially stronger than or equal to SS Kefla. And THEN she went SS2.

Meanwhile, before his little pride-family-rage boost, Vegeta was getting beaten ...

Easy. Pure strength, GoD Toppo is the strongest.

SS2 Kefla is much stronger than even SSB/KK Goku, whom SSBE Vegeta is equal to.

In terms of ability to hit above their paygrade, Vegeta takes the cake with his Final Explosion and family-oriented power bursts.

That doesn't make sense, even ...

Rank these 3

SSBE Vegeta, GoD Toppo and SS2 Kefla
Easy. Pure strength, GoD Toppo is the strongest.

SS2 Kefla is much stronger than even SSB/KK Goku, whom SSBE Vegeta is equal to.

In terms of ability to hit above their paygrade, Vegeta takes the cake with his Final Explosion and family ...

I have something I have to get off my chest. In episode 125 we see Toppo being unaffected or pushed by 17's rapid ki blast, yet in episode 127 Jiren was being pushed back by it. Does this mean, GoD Toppo is more stronger than Jiren in episode 127 or what?


Toppo was coated in hakai energy which ...

I have something I have to get off my chest. In episode 125 we see Toppo being unaffected or pushed by 17's rapid ki blast, yet in episode 127 Jiren was being pushed back by it. Does this mean, GoD Toppo is more stronger than Jiren in episode 127 or what?

Kenneth La Torre wrote:

SayianBeyondGod wrote:

Kenneth La Torre wrote:
Go to the dbs merchandise thead. U will see it there.

Do you have a link?

I already told u to go to the merchandise thread.

I mean do you have a link for that? IDK where it is on this site.

Anyone whose seen the broly wafer sticker, his lss self has a power of 9600. Thats as much as MUI goku.
I like a link to that, it's not too absurd to believe LSS Broly is as strong as MUI especially what magazines and movie promos have been implying. I wonder what this means if Gogeta beats this ...

Anyone whose seen the broly wafer sticker, his lss self has a power of 9600. Thats as much as MUI goku.
I like a link to that, it's not too absurd to believe LSS Broly is as strong as MUI especially what magazines and movie promos have been implying. I wonder what this means if Gogeta beats this ...

IDK if it's just me but I keep seeing Kefla wank(not referring to this site specifically) and the underestimation of the other characters that is compared in the series. People out there believed she's above current SSBE Vegeta and GoD Toppo in power which is flat out wrong with contradictions from ...

Those aren't the same waves. One's a circle expanding off and away, the other is a stream whipping over and back. The latter is what you're talking about. And I pointed out the scenes you do see them from the anterior.

Both seem to be coming towards Zamasu way or from behind the divine ...

Just when I thought Time Breaker Bardock was powerful, we have Xeno King Vegeta implying he's stronger than Beerus. Which makes him above Hakaishin tier if true.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dci-QHfV4AAK44l.jpg

If I were to scale Heroes(exclude angels and Zeno) it'll go:
1. Xeno Vegeta
2. Time ...

But from Zamasu's view we see the same concentric shockwaves emanating from the front. We can also see shockwaves pulsating across the sphere in these two shots, easier to see in motion though certainly not as visible as with the Galick Gun.

That isn't shockwaves but rather some kind of visible ...

What can perhaps be said is that when Goku won the clash the beam became much larger , which comes back to the question I posed about penetration vs moving. A punch that suddenly became strong enough to punch through your chest would also move you back if it didn't penetrate. Goku's Kamehameha ...

This explanation would explain why a bullet will penetrate a person but a punch won't. It would explain why a Kamehameha would penetrate but not a large spherical Big Bank Attack. It doesn't explain the difference in results of Vegeta's and Trunks's Galick Gun vs Goku's Kamehameha; they were two ...

That's not to mention that Goku put so much damn power into that Kamehameha that it broke his damn arms!

A Full-Power Kamehameha is RIDICULOUSLY strong compared to its user, far outstripping the user's normal limits.

Sure Goku having more time to recover and pushing more past his limits is a ...

This something I wanna get off my chest here, especially with the comparison between the father-son galick gun and Goku's kamekameha against Fused Zamasu's divine purification during episode 66 in DBS. A lot of people have the agenda that Goku's kamekameha is suddenly more powerful than the father ...

So it's possible the first Omen is stronger in power than the second.

Well I disagree with that. Why would the first, initial Ultra Instinct Omen from Super episode 110 be stronger than the second Ultra Instinct Omen from Super episode 116. That really wouldn't make a lot of sense, as Gokou has ...

A person can bump their elbow and be hurt for a moment and the pain goes away and they keep pushing. This is exactly what happened with Kefla. She received no damage to impair her. Goku's blows did nothing to change the outcome of the battle to his advantage. Kefla's one blow did by finishing Goku ...

This does not match up with the story. Please see how the context of words and action match with the convo being about Kefla's comparison to former and current UI...

*UI Goku powers up THEN Kefla powers up*

Gohan: "Dad and Kefla.."
Piccolo: "What are they? If one powers up, the other is incited ...