Kanzenshuu

They’re just sparring. I’d say at least SSJ Goku is = SSJG going by how BoGs ends. I’m not sure where Base Goku fits though… Is SSJG 50x SSJ3 Vegetto? Yeah, (BoG) Ss Goku = (BoG) Ssg Goku at the end of the arc so Goku's base form is 50x weaker than that and rises a little as the series progresses. ...

It's hard to say, since the manga implies that both Gokus are around the same level even on base form. But if we go by the arcade alone, Xeno Goku himself is way stronger than GT Goku (as SS1 Xeno Gogeta defeated the very same Omega Shenron that fought SS4 GT Gogeta) yet slighly weaker than his Blu...

Ignoring the fact that Heroes tries to push SSJ4 and Blue as equals... How would you guys think Super Saiyan God stands if was put to compare with battle powers in GT? Part of me thinks God > SSJ4 Gogeta, but probably is not that high. IIRC... Heroes only placed its version of the two Gokus at the ...

By now, yes, he would be as strong as UE or UI in base*. For the Broly movie, no. Goku didn't have that form at his disposal. *Again, it depends on whether it's the strongest form any of the fusees have or the strongest one that they share. So, Gogeta could be only SSB tier in base, regardless of t...

Sort of, but SSJB’s full power can’t be used if the form isn’t perfected. Vegeta’s bursts clearly weren’t doing anything to Merged Zamasu, and he was admittedly weaker than PSSJB Goku. Beerus noted his power skyrocketed in their sparring match when Vegeta went from normal to complete SSJB too. It i...

Fusion multiplier depends on the fusee's strongest forms. So in Z, Vegito was as strong as SS3 Goku(if it's the strongest form available for any of the fusees) or SS2 (if it depends on the strongest form BOTH of the fusees have), and in DBS, Vegito is as strong as SSB because that's the strongest f...

That’s only before they perfected Super Saiyan Blue though. Afterwards it probably becomes 50x, and since PSSJB was never a thing in the anime it probably was 50x the entire time. Perfected Ssb is just Ssb at full power. The multiplier doesn't change, the form just stays at full power like Ss 3 wou...

That may hold true for the original run, but the manga and Anime versions of Super are pretty dang different from each other. If whole characters can be stronger or weaker depending on which version of the story your looking at, the same could easily hold true for the forms, especially considering ...

Iirc that particular detail is only in the manga. Probably doesn't apply to the animated version. The multipliers are the same in the anime, manga, and movies. You're thinking of the stamina drain that drops their power below 10%. Even though blue drains stamina in the anime it's never stated how m...

I always felt that SSG being a 1,000 multiplier from base was good and it makes SSB a 50,000 multiplier, which is also a good number. It wouldn't be 50,000 because Ssb isn't 50× Ssg, since 10% of blue is weaker than Ssg. If the distance between the two forms were 50× then blue would have to be at 1...

Good catch on Goku being stronger even before the ritual. Gohan says Goku’s Ki has risen like never before, so SSJ Goku is already stronger than SSJ3 Goku vs Beerus. Vegeta also says he want to go next, but I’m not sure if he’s saying that because of Goku’s current power or because of the hype. I d...

Is the SSJG multiplier smaller after Battle of Gods? We tend to assume Goku doesn't get 1,000,000x stronger or anything anymore out of minimalism, but is that even suggested anywhere? No, the multiplier is the same as it always was but it was never high to begin with. A lot of people forget that Go...

How much stronger is Perfect Cell than SS Goku from when he fought #19? We know the Freeza arc started around 20,000 and ended up at 150M. So, like 6,000x stronger from beginning to end. What about the Cell arc? what type of boost would Goku need to beat Perfect Cell? or to be on his own Cell Games...

How much stronger than SS3 Goku were Super Buu, Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan? Not even with SS2 Vegeta Z-assisting him he thought he had a shot against Super Buu, so like twice as strong? more? or barely stronger and with Buu's insane abilities, you need to be much stronger to compete? What compariso...

How strong do you guys think Android 19 was after absorbing Goku's SS Kamehameha? clearly below a non-sick SS. Did he become much stronger, or maybe a bit stronger and that was it? Android 20 took a punch to the face from base Goku, which almost knocks him down. This might imply they are not that s...

Goku said he let the fight drag on so Vegeta would have a turn against Buu. That’s not really what Goku said. He only said he showed off and that he should have used everything he’s got from the beginning. Vegeta was even disappointed that Goku wasn’t thinking of him having a turn against Boo. Good...

Ok, since i know that what I said on bog base Goku will be blasted by an horde of no brainers, i come alredy armed finely . https://i.imgur.com/9EyYKum.jpg That's Beerus seeing base Goku. Nothing strange, but... https://i.imgur.com/tDhEdkZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/eaRJtUI.jpg When Goku turns ssj, Be...

Becomes stronger than z ssj3 from the get go* He's kid Buu tier already in EP 1, and kid Buu is blatantly>>z ssj3 I'll never get why nobody understands the way kid Buu was playing with Goku all the time. We see fullpower kid Buu only in one istance, when he was bodying the genkidama Goku says that ...

There can't really be consensus on the god multiplier until we are given an official one. And that won't ever happen If we look at feats, bog arc god is at least omega shenron tier since they scale from the same things Omega's feats are different from Goku's. Omega was going to destroy the universe...

I hope you're not thinking about giving some videogame power any actual credibility inside the canon verse lmao That wouldn't work You could make the same statement against any media that isn't the original Japanese manga. It being a video game doesn't make it less valid than the Daizenshuu or the ...