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I've seen nothing that makes me think Vegeta can contend with people GoD level+. Belmod who is weaker than Jiren was able to hurt Beerus and all the other gods. And going off this new chapter, Vegeta just doesn't look to be on that level Also it was Moro73 that was stated as the toughest/strongest/w...

False hype. They do this every arc to hype up the new enemy and whatever new form Goku gets. They need to hype it up afterall. Later, it will simply get retconned again to give Goku something to shoot for. Then Broly never had anything to stand on. His "strongest enemy" hype came from promo and his...

SSJ Blue Gogeta >>>> Broly >= Beerus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current UI Goku. This remains true until proven otherwise. This scale is a car crash when you take into account VJumps statement about Goku being the strongest mortal in the universe (U7) False hype. They do this e...

GodVegetto91 wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:09 am

SSJ Blue Gogeta >>>> Broly >= Beerus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current UI Goku.

This remains true until proven otherwise.

This scale is a car crash when you take into account VJumps statement about Goku being the strongest mortal in the universe (U7)

Jinto wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:24 pm

Toyotaro keeps on moving the goalpost
WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS !!!!!!

Vegeta is like 100x more powerful but does worse than before

Personally. I'd put time cage Hit above SSB level. The fact he was able to dent Jiren and trap him is impressive. I've seen some people use Jiren holding back as a way to downplay but even that version of Jiren was still hilariously above SSB level

Moro being the strongest while at the same time implied to be weaker than Beerus means Broly doesn't have much to stand on anymore

All of us in the Jiren > Broly club have been vindicated

Why is Uub constantly ignored in these "Strongest earthling" debates? Does being a reincarnated Buu somehow strip him of his earthliness?

Even before 'Super' he could could go toe to toe with base Goku who by that point was arguably as strong as SSJ3

People have been downplaying rage Vegeta these past few years He's easily above Super Vegetto imo Although stronger than SS3 Goku, we didn't get any other statement on him. Unlike with Failed Ritual SS, who was felt as the strongest entity ever (certainly above any Buu and probably Super Vegito) an...

People have been downplaying rage Vegeta these past few years

He's easily above Super Vegetto imo

Broly isn't comparable to Beerus anymore

Moro is stronger than him and he's implied to be weaker than Beerus. Now this new guy will be stronger than "strongest human being" Goku but still weaker than Beerus

Was Hit really stronger than Freeza?

In the anime Golden Freeza's true power was on par with ToP Goku who was like 10x stronger than U6 arc Hit

If Beerus > Goku > 7-3 Moro > Jiren > Belmod, which I admit the latest chapter implies...it means that Beerus is at the level where if Belmod punched Beerus, he'd break his arm even trying, which is pretty hilarious. Who would have guessed that when watching the GoD battle royale where Belmod restr...

It's pretty obvious that Moro is stronger than Broly Broly isn't gonna be attached at the hip of Beerus forever. That "probably stronger" line leaves a smidge of ambiguity allowing them to move Beerus up a level later on if need be. A simple "you're stronger than a I thought" and it's over It'll be...

It's pretty obvious that Moro is stronger than Broly Broly isn't gonna be attached at the hip of Beerus forever. That "probably stronger" line leaves a smidge of ambiguity allowing them to move Beerus up a level later on if need be. A simple "you're stronger than a I thought" and it's over It'll be ...

You're suffering from a severe case of denial if you still think Goku hasn't become a "formidable rival" The one that needs to prove he's a rival is Beerus. As of right now Goku can just stand there and watch Beerus break himself in half trying to hurt him. Beerus is old news now You’re trying to p...

You're suffering from a severe case of denial if you still think Goku hasn't become a "formidable rival"

The one that needs to prove he's a rival is Beerus. As of right now Goku can just stand there and watch Beerus break himself in half trying to hurt him. Beerus is old news now

I definitely think we have to remember to separate the anime and manga where appropriate. For example, Jiren's normal full-power is seen represented in the manga and anime well-enough, but then his limit-breaking power-up puts him on the same level as Ultra Instinct whereas Jiren's normal full-powe...

shadd21 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:14 pm

People still believe Beerus > Jiren/Blue fusion/MUI Goku?

I swear people overhype how powerful he really is.

It all comes from him being Toriyama's cat

All 3 sources (anime, movie and manga) have either showed or stated someone stronger than him

According to Goku, Moro is the toughest guy he ever met! Goku: ”What a waste... I've never met such a tough guy like you before!” Does this prove Morus/Mero >>>> Broly and Beerus?! ???? Let me know your thoughts. Obviously UI Goku is too. He's stronger than SSB Gogeta too. He was swapping hands wit...