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by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:38 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34318
Views: 1332418

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Kami states that a God cannot commit suicide. So he can't just off himself here. This is exactly the reason he asks Tenshinhan to do it for him. And the question isn't if Tenshinhan can kill Kami, the question is, if Kami decides to fight with the humans, how do they fare against Piccolo? Kami and ...
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:53 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34318
Views: 1332418

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Damaged Piccolo vs Kami + Humans This is when everyone thinks Goku is dead. Kami chooses to try to get Tien to kill him rather than fight Piccolo. Piccolo declares himself the King of the World... This is a severely hurt Piccolo as well. Is Piccolo really multi folds Kami at this point? Piccolo is ...
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:01 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34318
Views: 1332418

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Damaged Piccolo vs Kami + Humans

This is when everyone thinks Goku is dead. Kami chooses to try to get Tien to kill him rather than fight Piccolo. Piccolo declares himself the King of the World...

This is a severely hurt Piccolo as well. Is Piccolo really multi folds Kami at this point?
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:53 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Fact Checker (update: Ep.51)
Replies: 509
Views: 130891

Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.51)

How does Dragon Team rank according to Herms? They are really good right?
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:22 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Fact Checker (update: Ep.51)
Replies: 509
Views: 130891

Re: Fact Checker (update: Ep.51)

Episode 5 (9:55) Beerus- I see. So that’s what you used to defeat Freeza. It looks like you powered up a bit. Episode 5 (10:59) Beerus- You’re pretty good. I can see how you managed to defeat Freeza. But if this is all you’ve got, defeating Freeza would probably be the best you are capable of. Are t...
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:07 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11206
Views: 701479

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Dragonball Power Levels Kid Goku Saga Puar .001 Oolong .002 Bulma .003 (Farmer .005) (Hercule .007) (Videl .008) (Bob Sapp .010) Pterodactyl .012 Bear Bandit .015 Krillin .020 Goku W/o Tail .024 Yamcha .027 Goku W/ Tail .030 Yamcha's Wolf Fang Fist .030 Gyumao .050 Muten Roshi .075 Oozaru Goku .300...
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34318
Views: 1332418

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

There's really no issues accepting it, not that the movies necessarily have any continuation to them. I mean, Broly never showed up in M12 right, that would have been interesting...

Super Saiyan Vegeta (on Namek) vs Freeza. How does this one go?
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:15 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Were The Z Senshi So Useless Against Nappa?
Replies: 31
Views: 1684

Re: Why Were The Z Senshi So Useless Against Nappa?

I don't agree with that. Kikoho did hardly any damage. Piccolo was not aware of just how strong Nappa was at the time, Piccolo is just starting to see the depths of Nappa's power. Kikoho clearly would have done some insane damage to Piccolo, if not killed him. 2,800 is treated like a real serious th...
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:51 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Were The Z Senshi So Useless Against Nappa?
Replies: 31
Views: 1684

Re: Why Were The Z Senshi So Useless Against Nappa?

How do you feel about Kikoho being 2,400 o 2,500? I think it's a good fit...
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:59 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Were The Z Senshi So Useless Against Nappa?
Replies: 31
Views: 1684

Re: Why Were The Z Senshi So Useless Against Nappa?

That's the issue. The manga depicts 2,800 as the strongest attack, whereas the guidebooks go another route. For me it's clear, guidebooks are great, unless they contradict the manga, in which this case, a clear contradiction has been made.
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:23 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11206
Views: 701479

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Super Saiyan Vegeta 1,500 Super Saiyan Goku 1,450 Super Saiyan Trunks 1,300 Metal Cooler 1,250 Piccolo 1,125 Sick Goku 1,000 M5 Goku 900 Yardrat Goku 750 Trunks 600 Shredder Cooler 600 Mecha Freeza 400 Goku Namek 375 Freeza 350 Cooler 300 King Cold 250
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:19 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34318
Views: 1332418

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Shouldn't be much problem with that. Broly is indeed stronger than Goku, but he doesn't have to be outrageously so. Broly being around the level of Powered Up Fat Buu is an appropriate placement. A level that Goku with some help can handle for sure as he states with the help of Gohan and Vegeta, the...
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:15 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread
Replies: 3091
Views: 181394

Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

My favorite "What If" is probably Vegeta turning Super Saiyan on Namek. How that all plays out. For me personally, I envision Super Saiyan Vegeta being a step or two behind 70% Freeza and just enjoying all the elements that would go into this. Would Freeza go 50% for a while first, get beat up, feed...
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:12 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Were The Z Senshi So Useless Against Nappa?
Replies: 31
Views: 1684

Re: Why Were The Z Senshi So Useless Against Nappa?

Masenko to me appeared to be the finisher Piccolo had been planning on. I don't think any other battle power tops 2,800, except for Nappa's of course.
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:08 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: What statements in the manga would you change to fix power scaling?
Replies: 15
Views: 1185

Re: What statements in the manga would you change to fix power scalling?

I don't see any issues with the power scaling. The story really is a story of massive bloat. There is no conservative approach here. When he started to get himself in real trouble was the introduction of Kaioken. Having an ability to massively amplify your power is the cause for all of this. Everyon...
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sun Apr 29, 2018 9:01 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo (post three years training, pre Kami fusion)
Replies: 32
Views: 1241

Re: Piccolo (post three years training, pre Kami fusion)

I think a good standard to go by is to assume the previous arc's top powers are going to be replaced by the following arc's lowest powers. That's usually how it goes. With the events concluding on Namek, we had the strongest in the universe, Freeza himself, the God Emperor of the universe and the le...
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:48 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Could Goku and Gohan even fuse?
Replies: 10
Views: 632

Re: Could Goku and Gohan even fuse?

Here's the way I think it works. 1) Goku teaches us that he could not fuse in the afterlife because there wasn't anyone like him there. 2) Goku immediately thinks he and Gohan can fuse and win... Who are we to go against that really? This is what we are left with. 1) Metamoran Gokan > Buutenks 2) Ba...
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:42 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would it make more sense if Kid Buu was the strongest Buu?
Replies: 140
Views: 8430

Re: Would it make more sense if Kid Buu was the strongest Buu?

I don't see how it would at all. Super Saiyan Gotenks is supposed to be stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku. He goes into the RoSaT and powers up hugely. Then he adds Super Saiyan 2 and 3 on top of that. If we are going off of basic numbers using official multipliers, at minimum, Gotenks should be aro...
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:29 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Why Were The Z Senshi So Useless Against Nappa?
Replies: 31
Views: 1684

Re: Why Were The Z Senshi So Useless Against Nappa?

Guidebooks that don't contradict the manga are all well and good, but I think they do contradict here. 1) Nappa >= Gohan's Masenko = 2,800 > Enraged Gohan > Piccolo >> Tien > Kuririn > Yamcha > Saibamen 2) Kikoho > Scattering Bullet > Piccolo At least that's what I can see. Gohan is counted on to be...
by SuperSaiyanMastaDon
Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:07 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11206
Views: 701479

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Master Roshi Saga Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTpDZNHybl4&t Demon King Saga Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJVDTm8wZsM&t Son Goku & Friends Turtle .000001 Pu'ar .0015 Oolong .002 Bulma .003 Pterodactyl .015 Bear Bandit .018 Krillin .030 Yamcha .045 Ox King .100 Goku (W/o Tail) .040 ...