Kanzenshuu

The intensity of the feelings that I felt watching this can't be described. Is it creatively bankrupt? Sure. Is it cheap writing? Sure. It's whatever you want, but all of that isn't why I watch dragonball. This episode made me feel like I was a kid again, and I think that's exactly the feeling ...

Bardock God of Time wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:09 pm

ssj3kakarot wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:06 pm So is this supposed to be "what if Goku got his potential unlocked?"

EIther way, how are they going to tie this back into the series?

There's no need to do so unless Broly works towards this power in the manga

Agreed.

Anywaaaay I like how it looks and that it's not Demon-gated but Namekian-gated (so far at least). We'll see how it plays out but I'm happy, the form was always great and incredibly fitting for this franchise that WAS inspired by Journey to the West and Sun Wukong.

So IMO justice was done that ...

We’ve been given ssj4, a form that most everyone wanted to become canon and we still have people complaining lol can’t please everyone I guess. Personally I don’t mind how we got the form. I theorized that something like this would happen given the Namekians have knowledge of saiyan lore and what ...

Big oof in the Freeza reveal. Modern Dragon Ball seems to now be suffering immensely in quality. With RoF - ToP, some of the issues seemed relatively minor in that it a small rewrite could've fixed the issues but ever since Broly, the insistence on "Beerus's power >> Goku's newest form", "Staying ...

Gohan Blanco is dead!

It's Gohan Plata!!! Novel confirms it. Hair is silver and not white;


Proof? Do you have a link to the page or anything? I ask because I’d prefer his hair to actually be white. In the film it appears white but the shading/effects make it appear more gray/silver. His ...

It's pretty much confirmed by Goku that Granola is stronger than the both of them, hence his "I can't believe Granola has been battling the both of us" comment. SSJBE Vegeta's performance against Granola certainly does reinforce the fact that Vegeta is much stronger than Broly (who is much ...

But Vegeta didn't surpass Goku against Moro, that's my point. He got a better showing because of FSF but characters repeatedly make the point that his physical strength hadn't improved and UIS Goku was implied to be stronger. In a one-on-one fight between the two, UIS Goku would have won since FSF ...

Lets just hope that this form never makes it into the anime, like why does Toyo feel the need to do another transformation?? Like what happens to blue now? He should have just stuck with the Blue form..... or if anything give him Ultra Instinct since its an already established form. Why ...

Lets just hope that this form never makes it into the anime, like why does Toyo feel the need to do another transformation?? Like what happens to blue now? He should have just stuck with the Blue form..... or if anything give him Ultra Instinct since its an already established form. Why clutter ...

Why is everyone assuming Goku let his guard down and dropped out of UI? From the Spoilers it just looks like Goku beat him in UI and then the real Granolah One tapped him and knocked him into base. Am I missing something?


This. This seems to be the case and I hope it is. People love jumping the ...

Jiren The Alpha wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:35 pm I love how the fans don't get why Frieza's form is golden, even tho he said it in the movie. The fans is at bad at remembering as Toriyama somtimes, at least Toriyama has the excuse that he is getting older.

This x10 over

Moro considers all energy sources as meals, it was like that with Esca in Namek and it was like that with the Z Fighters on Earth. He saying that Vegeta would be his best meal is a testament that he has the greatest energy Moro has ever encountered. He's not talking about energies that he ate ...

I dunno, Piccolo just said it's hard to tell. But after all that training, he MUST have gotten stronger. Heck, his blue form was stated to be "way stronger than last time I saw it".

Maybe the gains from said training don't apply to Omen/UI because it's technically a technique and not a generic ...

Why exactly would Base Gogeta be automatically stronger than SSJBE? We saw that Gogeta was stronger than ordinary SSJB but nothing in the film indicated that he was comparable to or had surpassed SSJBE. Base Gogeta merely dodged all of Broly's attacks and didn't mount an offensive until going SSJ ...

[...] I remembered that a fusion warriors base is higher than each fusee’s strongest transformation [...]

Did I miss something? As far as I remember fusions function as AxB.


I mean yeah that’s what the Daiz says and it’s not going against what’s been shown multiple times. It’s been said ...

There is no such thing as "Blue Evolution", etc. in Toriyama's continuation. Gogeta is SSGSS and just SSGSS.


I understand the whole Toriyama’a continuation thing and it wasn’t in the movies script however, if we’re adding it to the lore and canonicity of both mediums, he writes and approves ...

I was doing my own scaling and originally had Gogeta above Jiren and Broly, having his base form at a low ball be at or slightly higher than ssj blue Goku and Vegeta individually. Then I remembered that a fusion warriors base is higher than each fusee’s strongest transformation and in technicality ...

It's hard to tell because he's unable to sense UI Goku's ki... So he can't make an accurate comparison.

I didn’t forget it. It’s just that reading Goku’s ki is not the only way to tell if Goku is stronger. Piccolo can read Jiren’s and Moro’s ki, so he could tell by comparing how Goku fought ...

Moro hasn't exhibited the most serviceably unorthodox of magical techniques. Much of them can be summed up as ranged energy absorption, telekinesis, a Zanzoken esque illusion, paralysis/immobility (doesn't completely restrain the victim), and fulminous/flame like projectiles. It's nothing we ...