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by 1345521
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Oh that's not an assumption, there's plenty of people here and on other sites who don't like the idea of characters being at a certain level because they don't find it to be logical that they should be that strong. Your phrasing seemed to imply this side of the community largely/mostly disagrees wi...
by 1345521
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:36 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Kid Buu or Super Saiyan God, it is the exact same thing. New characters pop up that are far stronger than the ones before. Base Goku in GT was apparently stronger than Kid Buu himself yet he transformed for Ledgic and Mutchy Mutchy, two other random aliens stronger than Kid Buu from the looks of it...
by 1345521
Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

From Daizenshuu 7: What about the change in Goku’s battle power after that? Even after the battle with Freeza, formidable enemies surpassing human knowledge appeared one after the other to face Goku. Though the power-ups received after having wounds healed became small, Goku and co. began using tra...
by 1345521
Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:19 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Super makes sense to you because you just selctivly ignore its bad parts. ssj sayainman gohan is strong enough to challenge ssj goku so he's god tier, and ssj2 trunks has passed the level of ssj god to you. You think ssj caulifa and cabba are SSJ GOD TIER, and the same for meggeta. No I never said ...
by 1345521
Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31681
Views: 2372161

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Toyo's Bardock doesn't look that bad. https://dragonball.news/news_images/toyotarou201810_01.jpg IT'S going to be a bit hard to say, but I think toyotaro is going to make a really good broly arc. To me, toyotaro really dropped the ball in the ToP saga (I think large part due to having to rush it to...
by 1345521
Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:50 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

On the topic of Kefla vs. SSG Goku, the reason why I think it makes sense is a few different reasons. Like I've highlighted before, I believe the show propagates a "partially but not fully-absorbed power of SSG" idea for both Goku and Vegeta. In this way, all their forms are much stronger than befo...
by 1345521
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:50 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31681
Views: 2372161

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

IT'S going to be a bit hard to say, but I think toyotaro is going to make a really good broly arc. To me, toyotaro really dropped the ball in the ToP saga (I think large part due to having to rush it to get to the broly stuff) - but I think he can rebound this broly arc, and he's really going to ex...
by 1345521
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:43 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

On the topic of Kefla vs. SSG Goku, the reason why I think it makes sense is a few different reasons. Like I've highlighted before, I believe the show propagates a "partially but not fully-absorbed power of SSG" idea for both Goku and Vegeta. In this way, all their forms are much stronger than befo...
by 1345521
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14278
Views: 981469

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Stop. I can’t believe someone would say that Toriyama is holding Toei back... If anything, he’s stopping them from making ridiculous, out of universe changes. Unless you completely forgot about all the issues with series during its run? I’m not about to go into too much detail about it. My days of ...
by 1345521
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:18 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 31681
Views: 2372161

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Toyo's Bardock doesn't look that bad. https://dragonball.news/news_images/toyotarou201810_01.jpg IT'S going to be a bit hard to say, but I think toyotaro is going to make a really good broly arc. To me, toyotaro really dropped the ball in the ToP saga (I think large part due to having to rush it to...
by 1345521
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:09 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Cabbe is clearly takes his position on the sadla defence force seriously, so it wouldn't make sense for him to spend so much time and effort bolstering his strength. Either Cabbe got to God levels easily, or he spends more time training than protecting people. He is constantly serving the Sadala de...
by 1345521
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:01 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Yeah and that was established a couple sagas prior to. Base Goku matched Final Form Frieza whereas the rest of the Z Fighters didn't stand a chance against him in his first form. His Base form strength skyrocketed like his Super Saiyan strength. Him being far above Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks was pretty...
by 1345521
Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:27 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

That should have confused absolutely nobody, in fact it should be expected that if their SSJ form was stated to be equal to and then surpass SSG, and then they got significantly stronger since then, that their Base forms would be above SSJ3 Gotenks by this point. Yeah and that was established a cou...
by 1345521
Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14278
Views: 981469

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

No. Vegeta had a completely different design in the BoG movie and arc. https://www.tumblr.com/reblog/126829048159/FDgLuhgT The one in the Battle of Gods Saga is based on his old anime design. Ok? I was just telling you that Vegeta didn’t have the same design in BoG that he does now since you said t...
by 1345521
Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Well for all the talk about how Dragon Ball Supers power scaling is ridiculously confusing, at least up to where I am at Episode 58 it's not that bad. If you can accept that Super Saiyan Goku = Super Saiyan God Goku, which they did specifically say, and then you accept that pretty much every other ...
by 1345521
Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:35 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The real problem is presentation. Jiren doesn’t look that hurt in the manga and he punched Goku out of UI. Compare to the anime where Jiren actually lost to the point that he admitted defeat and would have been rung out if Goku didn’t suffer a power backlash. Then Frieza and 17 beat Jiren up furthe...
by 1345521
Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The real problem is presentation. Jiren doesn’t look that hurt in the manga and he punched Goku out of UI. Compare to the anime where Jiren actually lost to the point that he admitted defeat and would have been rung out if Goku didn’t suffer a power backlash. Then Frieza and 17 beat Jiren up furthe...
by 1345521
Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:18 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Replies: 14278
Views: 981469

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

https://i.imgur.com/UeF6pLL.png Vegeta looks bad, I don't like his new kid design at all. They should stick with his previous look, especially since it was shown in BoG arc. Goku and Broly designs are good. That isn’t new at all. Vegeta had that same design in the Battle of Gods movie, so it’s over...
by 1345521
Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

BASE GOKU AND VEGETA (aka probably even weaker then perfect cell) are hurting Jiren! That's TERRIBLE power scailing. Maybe if they were in mssj blue and now could hurt Jiren, but even that's a stretch because Jiren powers shouldn't just drop off so quickly. Is his full power an energy drainer like ...
by 1345521
Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:13 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31327
Views: 1674785

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Vegeta did say that Jiren was considerably weakened though, so I don't see how Toyo messed up here. https://i.gyazo.com/a55a3c185da1f3f35d1c573e80bdf56f.png BASE GOKU AND VEGETA (aka probably even weaker then perfect cell) are hurting Jiren! That's TERRIBLE power scailing. Maybe if they were in mss...