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by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:36 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Does anyone have the DBZ Dragon Box set Dragon Book guides?
Replies: 6
Views: 962

Re: Does anyone have the DBZ Dragon Box set Dragon Book guides?

I can tell you first hand, there's nothing strength related in any of the Dragon Books. The books primarily contain recap and very general story information pertaining to the corresponding episodes in that set. They're nothing like the in-depth daizenshuu guides. You can hit up our Home Video Guide...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:52 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Does anyone have the DBZ Dragon Box set Dragon Book guides?
Replies: 6
Views: 962

Re: Does anyone have the DBZ Dragon Box set Dragon Book guides?

The thing is, no-one here is going to just give you the entirety of the books -- that's still piracy. So if you have something specific you want to know, or some kind of even topic that you're interested in knowing if they touch on, by all means go ahead and ask. Gotta give something here, ya' know...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:13 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Does anyone have the DBZ Dragon Box set Dragon Book guides?
Replies: 6
Views: 962

Re: Does anyone have the DBZ Dragon Box set Dragon Book guides?

Lots of people have them, but you're not exactly being very clear on what you want here. And ironically, you failed to do the same here. Please reread the post again. I clearly worded what I wanted and what I was asking for and showed pictures for those who had no idea about this kind of obscure gu...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:54 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Does anyone have the DBZ Dragon Box set Dragon Book guides?
Replies: 6
Views: 962

Does anyone have the DBZ Dragon Box set Dragon Book guides?

To get straight to the point I'm looking for any (new) information that's in these guides and while bits and portions are scattered about the internet, I just can't find a place where I can look at all the pages and buying them is either a bit too expensive or hard to find in general). Anyone who ha...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?
Replies: 28
Views: 4620

Re: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?

The other issue is of course Grade 3 trunks compared to Cell Post ROSAT second visit. That'd give us an idea of scaling. Do they say the Cell who fights Goku was stronger than the Cell who fought Trunks. Well, I went over this already but again it doesn't matter power Cell was at since Cell said Tr...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?
Replies: 28
Views: 4620

Re: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?

Your sentence structure is confusing. I assume english is not your first language so i will give you some time to change your response. English is my first language and you can tell by the previous post. I just had 1 typo. Relax. The first "speed" was supposed be "power" and put...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:41 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?
Replies: 28
Views: 4620

Re: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?

Does Trunks' actual power level in that moment even mean anything? Ultimately every power level in Dragon Ball equals what would be most exciting for the story while also providing drama between chapters. The Saiyan arc is a perfect example of this thought process. The Earth's fighters are weaker t...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:12 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?
Replies: 28
Views: 4620

Re: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?

I will explain exactly what went on with grade 3. Trunks did manage to increase his speed and strength beyond grade 2 however, the energy consumption and overall muscle mass makes grade 3 speed increase become retarded so much so that it does not increase in proportion to the strength. It is for th...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:02 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?
Replies: 28
Views: 4620

Re: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?

Plus in DBS, Caulifla goes from SSJ (Grade 4) to Grade 3 She doesn't. She was in Grade-1 then powered-up to Grade-3. Goku tells her she'd better to master SS=reaching Grade-4 instead. Wrong. Goku tells her to master SSJ2, not SSJ. Goku wouldn't tell her to master SSJ2 if she hadn't mastered SSJ con...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:49 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?
Replies: 28
Views: 4620

Re: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?

I will explain exactly what went on with grade 3. Trunks did manage to increase his speed and strength beyond grade 2 however, the energy consumption and overall muscle mass makes grade 3 speed increase become retarded so much so that it does not increase in proportion to the strength. It is for th...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:46 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?
Replies: 28
Views: 4620

Re: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?

He might have been, I'd even be willing to bet that he had more raw power in the moment, but it really doesn't matter if Trunks was stronger than Cell or not. The whole point of the scene was to act as a reminder that strength isn't everything, and that being a smart fighter is what ultimately earn...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:37 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?
Replies: 28
Views: 4620

Re: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?

Goku was clearly more powerful when he used the full extent of Super Saiyan. He came out of the Room of Spirit and Time as a Super Saiyan and then proceeded to power up to half in front of Karin and then all the way up against Cell. It's not a situation where their full power is equal to their prev...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:45 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?
Replies: 28
Views: 4620

Re: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?

I think that I was misinterpreted. What I meant to say was that: Super Saiyan 2 > Full Power > Grade 3 > Half Power > Grade 2 > Super Saiyan. Cell's "full power" against Gohan would be half with respect to his near death recovery. Through the latter he may have gained a new state of being...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:28 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3484202

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

How far could a fusion of Raditz and Nappa survive into the Namek saga, if both of their PLs were the same (4,000)? I doubt they'd scratch Frieza, but they'd probably annoy the Ginyu Force. It's a little hard to say how far could a fusion of Raditz and Nappa survive into the Namek saga, if both of ...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:39 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?
Replies: 28
Views: 4620

Re: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?

It really is just a matter of Trunks only surpassing Cell as he was then. Cell basically picked a comfortable level that was strong enough to beat up Grade-2 Vegeta, but Trunks managed to force his way past it with Grade 3. Later on at the Cell Games, we get power statements about Goku "outstr...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3484202

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

In the anime, they retained the RoF superstrong base forms, in the manga they did not. Anime base Vegeta fights SS3 Gotenks and beats him up easily. In the manga this never happened nor is implied that it could happen. Manga Goku also needed SSG to oneshot SS2 Trunks, while in the anime SS3 was eno...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?
Replies: 28
Views: 4620

Re: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?

It was only noted that Trunks was stronger than Cell while he [Cell] was still heavily suppressing his power... So said comments would not be applicable to a full power Cell, because none of the Z Fighters had any indication of what a 100% Cell was capable of at the time. Again, Cell only used his ...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:06 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37485
Views: 3484202

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

I was browsing the dragon ball subreddit, and this is the first time I’ve heard the concept of “DBS Anime Goku and Vegeta are stronger than DBS Manga Goku and Vegeta” (only while the stories are parallel, like ToP vs ToP). Where does this come from? I know the anime has a few more forms and asspull...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:25 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?
Replies: 28
Views: 4620

Re: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?

Cell was also heavily suppressed when he fought Trunks -- so any comparisons between their powers at the time need to take that into consideration. Cell never displayed his full power until SS2 Gohan entered the fray. Sorry, but I accidently left out that last bit with the full context since I thou...
by BLAST!PROCESSOR
Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:05 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?
Replies: 28
Views: 4620

Re: So what's the fandom's consensus on Grade 3 Trunks being stronger than Perfect Cell?

Cell was also heavily suppressed when he fought Trunks -- so any comparisons between their powers at the time need to take that into consideration. Cell never displayed his full power until SS2 Gohan entered the fray. Quick addition: It makes no sense for Cell's "stronger than me" stateme...