Kanzenshuu

Well well (basing off the anime) Unknown tier 1 zeno 2 infinite zamasu/universe zamasu 3 daishinkan 4 zeno's guards 5 angels (I put em all in the same group just to not use 12 positions only for them) Over hakishin tier 6 gogeta 7 broly 8 goku 9 jiren Hakaishin tier 10 geene 11liquir-arack-iwen 12 ...

Goku and Vegeta need new forms to become stronger.

1- Zeno 2- Daishinkan 3- Whis 4- Zeno's Guards 5- SSB Gogeta 6- FPSSJ Broly 7- Beerus 8- UI Goku 9- LB Jiren 10- SSBE Vegeta 11- GoD Toppo 12- SSJ2 Kefla 13- Golden Freeza 14- Android 17 15- Aniraza 16- Inifinite Zamasu 17- SSB Vegetto 18- SSR Future Trunks (w Spirit Sword) 19- Hit 20- Dyspo 21- Ult...

Its like asking who would win between current Goku and namecc goku, kek Not really, Goku trained after Namek, it would not be absurd for Krillin to be weaker than his Namek arc self when he hasn't trained in 13 years. He trained before the ToP. I know, but that time is not enough to recover all his...

p-hyvo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:08 am

AvatarReiko wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:20 am Curren Krillin vs Namek Krillin

Its like asking who would win between current Goku and namecc goku, kek

Not really, Goku trained after Namek, it would not be absurd for Krillin to be weaker than his Namek arc self when he hasn't trained in 13 years.

Goku pretty much told him that match was too bad for him, Goten had no chance. He didn’t have a chance when he was stronger as a kid, let alone at that point. I like the idea that Boo got asleep in the middle of the fight and that counted to Goten’s favor. What? Where the heck was even implied that...

Well over all the z verse in the anime, 17/18 tier in the manga (17 and 18 form z obviously) Do you think RoF Freeza needed to transform to defeat Gohan and Piccolo in the manga? In the manga He would need to, considering that his final form is low ssb tier But he didnt, the story were the same as ...

So, where would you guys say RoF 1st Form Freeza peaks at during the Buu arc? given that he one-shot SS Gohan, could he take on Majin Vegeta? would he be even stronger than that? Well over all the z verse in the anime, 17/18 tier in the manga (17 and 18 form z obviously) Do you think RoF Freeza nee...

Obviously not. God Goku = beyond God Goku>=ff freezer (70%)>>>>>>>good buu That's a fact That’s only your opinion. There is no beyond God form. Dragon Ball Super made very clear that we only have Base, SS, SS2, SS3, SSGod, SSBlue and Ultra Instinct following a linear sequence of powerlevel. And as ...

So I'm curious on what people think about this: If 1st form Freeza in the RoF arc is a 10 then how much would you put Final form Freeza at? 1st Form Freeza: 10 Final Form Freeza (50%): 3.500 So , for you final form has a x700 multiplier... exaggerated lol Not really, Namek Freeza has a battle power...

ZombieVito wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:51 am So I'm curious on what people think about this:

If 1st form Freeza in the RoF arc is a 10 then how much would you put Final form Freeza at?

1st Form Freeza: 10
Final Form Freeza (50%): 3.500

Battle against Freeza - Power Levels Freeza: 350,000 -- Full Power: 530,000 Vegeta: 480,000 Krillin: 125,000 Gohan: 200,000 -- Enraged: 1,000,000 Freeza (Second Form): 1,050,000 -- Power Up (vs Gohan): 1,300,000 -- Full Power: 1,600,000 Piccolo: 200,000 -- Without Weighted Clothes (Unseen): 250,000 ...

Goku vs. Freeza is just an example, but there are several others. So, it shouldn’t be that the reason. If SS Cabba is weaker than SS Vegeta, the same applies to their base, so it’s very safe to assume Vegeta was being a little generous there.. It’s perfectly lined up with the end of the original ma...

Probably DB Minus Goku.

No more than SSJG Goku was hurting Beerus in their fight. I don't remember that Beerus was severely injured after fighting Goku, he was in good state iirc. He showed more pain and injury than he did either of the times he fought Champa. When? I don't remember Beerus bleeding in his fight with Goku.

You mean when they just punched each other a few times before Whis and Vados stopped them? Yeah, they were hurting each other so they weren't holding back. No more than SSJG Goku was hurting Beerus in their fight. I don't remember that Beerus was severely injured after fighting Goku, he was in good...

Polyphase Avatron wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:03 pm

Soldierofficial wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:09 pm

p-hyvo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:11 am

In the anime?where?

Goku saw Beerus fight Champa twice in the anime.

You mean when they just punched each other a few times before Whis and Vados stopped them?

Yeah, they were hurting each other so they weren't holding back.

Goku said Broly might be stronger than Beerus, and he hasn't ever seen Beerus' full power. So Broly ~ The percent of Beerus' power that Goku has seen < SSJB Gogeta. Goku saw Beerus fight at 100% in both manga and anime. In the anime?where? Goku saw Beerus fight Champa twice in the anime.

This theory is fine expect Toriyama stated Whis is 1.5 stronger than Beerus. Even with 10 and 15 gone we know Toriyama designed Whis to have a limit above the Destroyers. Even if that interview wasn't retconned a long time ago, it was never meant to be analyzed seriously. It was to show just how fa...

Angels are probably created as perfect from the get-go since they are the ultimate boundaries of anything in the universe, making them invincible warriors. To be able to fit their function without any second thought about their reliability, their power is likely absolute and beyond the grasp of eve...