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by The Undying
Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: How Would Moro Arc Piccolo Fare In DBZ?
Replies: 32
Views: 639

Re: How Would Moro Arc Piccolo Fare In DBZ?

To be fair, none of those instances would be acceptable if they weren't already written. I find them acceptable enough in the manga. Trunks endured years of the most intense situations imaginable and only achieved SS3-like power, Gohan's potential (which is basically his whole shtick) to reach god-...
by The Undying
Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:45 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: How Would Moro Arc Piccolo Fare In DBZ?
Replies: 32
Views: 639

Re: How Would Moro Arc Piccolo Fare In DBZ?

I agree but when Piccolo's taking the same blows that #17 is taking and lasting longer and taking even more of them while #17 is still on the floor, I don't think you need anyone in the story to specifically say that he's at least as strong if not much stronger. The feat speaks for itself. Goku's s...
by The Undying
Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: How Would Moro Arc Piccolo Fare In DBZ?
Replies: 32
Views: 639

Re: How Would Moro Arc Piccolo Fare In DBZ?

Piccolo teaming up with Gohan or using Makankosappo (a technique that far outstrips the user's current power when fully charged) doesn't necessarily prove he's pushing god tiers, and the only direct statement we get from the manga is Goku vaguely acknowledging he's a lot stronger now. I think SS3 le...
by The Undying
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:20 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: So is this whole Moro arc basically the, "Garlic Jr. saga" of Super?
Replies: 76
Views: 3590

Re: So is this whole Moro arc basically the, "Garlic Jr. saga" of Super?

When the fight against Freeza starts, within the span of three weekly chapters - which is almost one monthly DBS chapter - we go from Piccolo absorbing Nail to Freeza being surprised (but still unbothered) by Vegeta's growth to Freeza showing that he can transform (then impaling Kuririn) to Gohan de...
by The Undying
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:17 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What Inconsistencies &/or Retcons You Wished Were Never Made In Dragon Ball Super?
Replies: 108
Views: 1742

Re: What Inconsistencies &/or Retcons You Wished Were Never Made In Dragon Ball Super?

Anything that requires me to suspend my disbelief for extended periods of time within an in-universe framework qualifies as an inconsistency for me, so yeah, I'll go with the TV series in its entirety. That means constant power scaling discrepancies, retconned godly base forms, awful film retellings...
by The Undying
Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:46 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Perfect Ultra Instinct: Skinny vs. Swole?
Replies: 21
Views: 513

Re: Perfect Ultra Instinct: Skinny vs. Swole?

Personally, I'm okay with both. What matters to me is retaining Goku's more relaxed facial expression - meaning no wrinkle between the brows. Toyotaro has been consistent with this so far, and when Goku had the scowl for Sign, the dialogue wasted no time confirming he was just using it incorrectly. ...
by The Undying
Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:39 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35057
Views: 2736123

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I can do without friendship speeches and that kinda thing in Dragonball, since it's a series that has consistently mocked and made fun of those kinds of genre platitudes. Ehh, I don't think it's being played that straight here. Really, I'd say the chapter already approaches it in a subversive, prod...
by The Undying
Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:21 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904576

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I’m unsure quite how much this comes across in Viz’s version. Viz's translation is "He's countering faster now, through sheer determination. But when Goku's body just reacts, it takes quite a toll on him. He may have achieved Ultra Instinct... but Goku hasn't trained enough to wield it properly." I...
by The Undying
Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:40 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35057
Views: 2736123

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

The chapter title says it all: "Son Goku, Galactic Patrol Officer". That, to me, demonstrates that he isn't like Superman, not that he is. When Goku mentions protecting the universe, he makes it abundantly clear it's in the context of his role as a temporary Galactic Patrol agent, which he's taking ...
by The Undying
Sun Sep 20, 2020 11:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904576

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

In Jiren's defense, Whis did state that his potential is immeasurable. But multiple characters (including Whis) have also stated that Ultra Instinct can overcome any threat when properly utilized, with the obvious exception of characters also capable of using UI. I'll reiterate that I have no horse ...
by The Undying
Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32789
Views: 1904576

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I don't have much to contribute that other posters haven't already, but one detail I feel is being overlooked is the entire reason Jiren overcame UI Goku. When Whis said that Jiren started to counter Goku's attacks faster, he didn't imply that Goku couldn't react/evade; he specifically said that Gok...
by The Undying
Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35057
Views: 2736123

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

That's the fact you can't ignore: Dragonball and mostly Goku doesn't do the most rational thing, but the most "dragonballish" thing. 100% nailed it. Frankly, this litany of unfounded criticism is nothing new. "Why isn't Beerus stepping in?", "Hurry up and execute him, Goku!", etc. Dragon Ball's mai...
by The Undying
Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35057
Views: 2736123

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Goku has never executed downed, begging opponents. He's fought to kill plenty of times, but the killing always came before the fight could totally run out in the opponent, in do-or-die moments. Kill-to-win rather than kill-after-winning. It's also this. Goku certainly isn't above killing his enemie...
by The Undying
Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35057
Views: 2736123

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Now if Goku's mind is troubled by hesitation to kill Moro then my question would be how this goat monster is different from the likes of Yakon whom he put down in short order when they clashed. Is it because of Yakon appearing more inhuman and bestial? The previous chapter addresses this, but it's ...
by The Undying
Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35057
Views: 2736123

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I assume we're nearing the end, so I'll refrain from posting in-depth thoughts until... well, the end. This is largely because the pacing has been so thoroughly botched throughout the arc that it's hard to make heads or tails of major plot points, since a lot of them are just end-of-chapter cliffhan...
by The Undying
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:48 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35057
Views: 2736123

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Is it just me or does this MUI look like Anime MUI? Its almost like this arc is a continuation of the anime and not the manga The musculature is similar to Goku's base form and not quite as buff as the anime or FighterZ. Also, there's no wrinkle between Goku's brows (unlike the anime/games) to emph...
by The Undying
Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:19 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35057
Views: 2736123

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I’m fucking pissed and dissapointed that we didn’t see Goku attain MUI in today’s manga draft pages... I’m very shocked and NEGATIVELY surprised. I would’ve at least liked to have gotten some confirmation on it... Slow your roll. You'll get the actual chapter in a week's time. Previews like this on...
by The Undying
Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:00 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Deploy the Headcanon!
Replies: 61
Views: 1230

Re: Deploy the Headcanon!

Broly's green "Super Saiyan Full Power" form isn't just Broly at full power; it really is the ultimate Super Saiyan form at peak potential, combining SS with the power of Oozaru at its full capacity to evolve into the perfect representation of a Saiyan. Super Saiyan 2, 3 and so on is simply an alter...
by The Undying
Fri Sep 04, 2020 2:35 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35057
Views: 2736123

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

If you just mean he probably doesn't have so specific a boost in mind, I can accept that as a possibility - it wouldn't be the first time that a fan inference from a scene was more specific than authorial intention in Dragon Ball, I guess. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The point is that Whis descri...
by The Undying
Fri Sep 04, 2020 1:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35057
Views: 2736123

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

And for what it's worth, I do think we're talking something like a 2x increase on Goku's usual Blue power when he uses it - else, what's the point in making the comparison with Kaio-Ken, if it doesn't even yield a similar sort of power-up? My impression of there being a comparison, rather than stri...