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by Mr Baggins
Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Whenever I see leaks being taken out of context, I'm routinely reminded that some things never change. It honestly kills me to see this fandom harassing artists over their work or obsessing over a character's track record. Dragon Ball was never about track records, wins or score keeping. I'm surpris...
by Mr Baggins
Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:07 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

No idea how Viz is gonna translate this (beware of spoilers in link), but if they're consistent... ...they'll replace the "Instinct" part of Ultra Instinct for Vegeta's form instead of "Ultra", since both already have Gokuu'i in the name. Ultra Ego is what I'd go with, but who kn...
by Mr Baggins
Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Did you like the bromance between Android 17 and Frieza?
Replies: 12
Views: 1532

Re: Did you like the bromance between Android 17 and Frieza?

I like it in the manga because it feels like there's meaning and substance from it; their dynamic is precisely what allows them to formulate a strategy and ultimately win the whole tournament. I find their interactions in the anime far less meaningful. Character chemistry is fun in isolation, but al...
by Mr Baggins
Mon Aug 09, 2021 10:36 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

So, all the discussions about the wish and the new dragon weren't on Toyo after all? Not to toot my own horn, but I mentioned a few pages back that the whole plot point feels more in line with Toriyama than Toyotaro. In hindsight, though, it's not terribly surprising -- most of Super's "riskie...
by Mr Baggins
Mon Aug 09, 2021 9:43 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

This interview sure does a lot of describing Toriyama's involvement with the arc outline, and with Toyotaro also recalling how surprised he was about it, I'd guess it's a subtle implication that the former really was only minimally involved with the previous arc (unless I'm reading into it too much)...
by Mr Baggins
Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Was Moro wasted potential? His introduction was really ominous.
Replies: 77
Views: 8248

Re: Was Moro wasted potential? His introduction was really ominous.

"Missed potential" would imply that Moro had the capacity to be more compelling than he actually was. I disagree. As a thematic obstacle ( Magnificent Ponta 's posts and some of my old ones lay all of this out) he gets the job done. Whether it's the parallels with Vegeta, especially old Ve...
by Mr Baggins
Sun Aug 01, 2021 8:52 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

It might be revealed as a unique property of the Ceralian dragon. If it’s not, it’s still only about as glaring an issue to me as the revelation of the Room of Spirit and Time, but I can see taking some issue with the questions it raises about previous storylines. Well, as mentioned, I guess I'd ra...
by Mr Baggins
Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

There is functionally no difference between deciding to become Vegito or Gogeta in order to beat someone far above them. Both take the fight out of his hands. Either fusion fully preserves the trait I've kept bringing up and Goku/Vegeta's consciousness/experience. As far as my point goes, that's a ...
by Mr Baggins
Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

That's the previous Vegeta. I actually totally disagree. That's current Vegeta. That's the Vegeta who spent the better part of a whole chapter explaining why Granolah's wish is anathema to everything he stands for -- be it that wish's complete disregard for the experience of battle for the sake of ...
by Mr Baggins
Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Re: Wish talk: There's a reason Vegeta's intended wish back on Namek wasn't to become the universe's strongest, despite wanting to overthrow and eventually outmatch a tyrant that he knew was far beyond his scope. There's a reason Goku was already extremely reluctant to do the God ritual, despite She...
by Mr Baggins
Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

We're now right back to where we started. Nothing was gained. We don't understand Granolah as a character more, we don't know how his powers work, and nobody is actually talking to each other so we can get some goddamn compelling story here. I'd say the issue is less that we're not getting any stor...
by Mr Baggins
Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:24 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"
Replies: 5562
Views: 587531

Re: Dragon Ball Super Movie #2: "Super Hero" Coming 2022! (Toriyama Scripting!)

The willingness to do the unexpected is classic Toriyama. DBS: Broly is probably my favorite story in Super, but not everything needs to be that bombastic and it's a good thing we're not getting another reimagined villain. With that said, it's still a modern Dragon Ball film. Don't expect this one t...
by Mr Baggins
Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:32 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Just gonna quickly note that although the V Jump "guide" refers to Goku's form as Blue Kaioken, its description specifically says it merely uses the principles of Kaioken just like the manga. I don't think there's any real disputing that this is Toyotaro's take on the anime's forms, but it...
by Mr Baggins
Fri Jul 09, 2021 9:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: What is the General Consensus on the Moro Arc?
Replies: 82
Views: 8863

Re: What is the General Consensus on the Moro Arc?

I'm not convinced enough people have read the arc for there to be any kind of large "consensus", and popular opinion can obviously change over time. Either way, the concept means nothing to me; if my reading agrees with that of most consumers, that's cool, but if not, that's fine too. For ...
by Mr Baggins
Wed May 26, 2021 7:19 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I appreciate Goku's melding of UI's principles with the Super Saiyan forms, particularly Super Saiyan God, as well as Granolah's internal conflict as a Cerealean hell-bent on revenge but with an obvious conscience. Still couldn't care less for the slower pacing or this by-now-stale action structure ...
by Mr Baggins
Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

It's not that deep. The point is that sexual harassment isn't something you should ever make light of, especially in a comic aimed at kids. Macki calls him out, but she's ultimately still coerced and the thrust of the scene still portrays it as a gag. It's half-hearted "progress" at best ...
by Mr Baggins
Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Vegeta not using IT and not mastering it due to Goku knowing it is bad
Replies: 37
Views: 7973

Re: Vegeta not using IT and not mastering it due to Goku knowing it is bad

Back when I first joined this forum, this made me have a minor meltdown in the main manga thread which I'm not proud of (apologies again Marlowe, I was going through some stuff at the time, I guess), but even after simmering down considerably, I still see the whole scene of Vegeta abandoning IT as ...
by Mr Baggins
Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:17 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Oh yeah, I'm in 100% agreement with JulieYBM. I get that Dragon Ball has a history of this, but coercion is coercion all the same and it's gross no matter the circumstance. Macki's acknowledgement of Zuno's harassment doesn't absolve unfortunate tropes that are continually still perpetuated in Japan...
by Mr Baggins
Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:17 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42704
Views: 5767982

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Like with last month, there's a lot of material that could have been condensed. I tend to enjoy Dragon Ball more for its snappier pacing and unexpected character beats than the kind of deliberative plot stuff we're getting here; the latter isn't really DB's forte, but I'm willing to see if it pays o...
by Mr Baggins
Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: is piccolo god level in the manga?
Replies: 154
Views: 24497

Re: is piccolo god level in the manga?

I don't buy that, if Piccolo is too weak, then Gohan synchronising his speed and movements with him would lead to them both being too slow to land any hits on Saganbo, he'd have time to recover. I understand where you're coming from. But as far as Super's mechanics go, there are clear examples of t...