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by Mr Baggins
Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:45 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Why are you asking me? I don't personally rank Zeno anywhere. He doesn't fight/spar.
by Mr Baggins
Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:27 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

An Immortal Mr. Satan would not be placed at the top because anyone with Mafuba can end him. I... what? You understand Mafuba is a rare technique that few characters have access to, right? Immortal Mr. Satan can still outlast opponents that can't bypass his immortality, including those that are str...
by Mr Baggins
Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:37 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Yes, Zamasu is a villain who cheats and steals (the norm in Dragon Ball villains); that has no bearing on his placement in the power scale. Otherwise, we might as well place Granola and Gas forever in Bardock tier. *sigh*... Hombre, you're clearly not getting this. What Zamasu does has every bearin...
by Mr Baggins
Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:53 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Gotta love the irony of being accused of posting in bad faith by the guy with the literal Zamasu avatar and username. I'll let that speak for itself. But no, it was that easy because that's exactly what happened. The whole narrative thrust of Zamasu is that he's a scrub in the grand scheme who was s...
by Mr Baggins
Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Yet Moro was clearly neither more durable nor more difficult to defeat than Infinite Zamasu. Goku has red button. Goku presses red button. Red button goes boom and Goku escapes. That's the "difficulty" of Infinite Zamasu. The original native language dialogue is correct – he doesn't come ...
by Mr Baggins
Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:56 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Strength is not just power level. Strength as a term refers to everything, including endurance, stamina, energy, speed, etc. Yes, and Jiren is better than Zamasu in all categories as a fighter. So is Moro, who Goku referred to as his "toughest" foe (タフ historically refers to durability/di...
by Mr Baggins
Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:25 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think Goku and Vegeta could've taken on LSS Broly from the Movie because Granolah and Gas's wish should've made them stronger than him, but "DBSSH Broly" is stronger than pretty much everyone except Frieza because of Victory Uchida's comment about Broly being unsurpassed still. Uchida's...
by Mr Baggins
Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Toriyama's quote on Gohan being the strongest ("or so it is said") is specifically about his role in the film, where he needs Piccolo's motivation rather than Goku's to come to terms with his power. That's the context of what he's getting at for anyone reading the whole passage. We've clea...
by Mr Baggins
Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:50 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Going to make my first post here in three years, good to see some familiar faces are still here! I'll be posting a tier list for the top 100 strongest characters in the series (imho), would appreciate if you guys can critique it or let me know if I missed someone. Welcome back, buddy! Thus far, FP ...
by Mr Baggins
Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:37 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1236
Views: 94536

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

It's not literal chibification. If it was chibification, you wouldn't have characters losing facial hair or Toriyama's design notes mentioning that they changed Goku and co.'s facial features. De-aging also isn't necessarily tantamount to "time reversal", so the spell isn't restoring lost ...
by Mr Baggins
Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:19 pm
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
Replies: 916
Views: 97839

Re: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread

Damn near 11 years since its debut and Super Saiyan God remains my favorite transformation in the franchise, so I'm satisfied. Going back to this, my only nitpick so far is that they made God's hair identical to Goku's base form. The spikes are supposed to be more pronounced/visible in SSG, with no...
by Mr Baggins
Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:51 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
Replies: 916
Views: 97839

Re: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread

Damn near 11 years since its debut and Super Saiyan God remains my favorite transformation in the franchise, so I'm satisfied. It's funny that they dedicated way more time to it than Blue in the trailer, despite the latter being the "brand" form. But even if this showcase wasn't everyone's...
by Mr Baggins
Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:13 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1236
Views: 94536

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

Very cool! Trailer looked incredible and I loved every bit of Toriyama's pared down RPG-ish designs and Nakatsuru's adaptation of them. I can tell they're still holding back a lot of info though, including just basic plot stuff. Can't wait for Fall. If Daima is as good as it looks, we're in for a fu...
by Mr Baggins
Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:13 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The Broly panel being included alongside Grand Priest confused the living hell out of people, including @SupaChronicles. The dragon-ball-official.com interviews are always pre-planned and intended for consumption. If a giant image of Broly flashing across the screen as his name is mentioned doesn't...
by Mr Baggins
Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Toyo is just having to course correct after getting a memo from upper management that Broly is still the strongest To be clear, I'm in full agreement with that. Extradiegetically, it is indeed a retcon of sorts. Intradiegetically, this month's dialogue is Toyotaro applying his own course correction...
by Mr Baggins
Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:35 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 136
Views: 17441

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread

I know we're somewhat veering off-topic here, but I feel compelled to at least respond to this point that relates to some of what we've seen from this chapter and more broadly the manga in general: To be totally honest, I feel like Toyotaro is a HUGE Vegeta fanboy. Like, it legit always feels he goe...
by Mr Baggins
Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:44 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The movies and manga aren't doing anything different with Broly. Over half of what I just quoted above including Saikyo Jump was specifically in reference to the manga, the manga acts like the 2018 movie happened as-is (where Broly's FP form is literally compared to Beerus), and nobody ever directly...
by Mr Baggins
Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:38 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

"He's a Saiyan like me, but he's probably even stronger than Beerus-sama!" – Dragon Ball Super: Broly (2018) "Frankly, the enemy Goku and co. are up against in this movie is the strongest. Those who trust Goku will win may lose confidence, so be careful." (…) "Destructive po...
by Mr Baggins
Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:22 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988802

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Which Toyotaro did when he adapted Super Hero as a manga arc :P Correct, although I'd say he postdicts it well enough to present a logical in-universe explanation behind why Broly was discounted in the Granolah arc. Toyotaro just made his full power from the 2018 movie inaccessible. Even in that mo...
by Mr Baggins
Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 136
Views: 17441

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread

There is no indication that Goku kidnapped Uub from his family and he didn't take Uub with him against his wishes. Huh? I'm talking about Goku's family, not Oob's. Not once did I mention kidnapping. Anyway, I don't feel like making a quote-by-quote breakdown about why you either missed the point of...