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- Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:45 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Why are you asking me? I don't personally rank Zeno anywhere. He doesn't fight/spar.
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:27 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
- Views: 3988802
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An Immortal Mr. Satan would not be placed at the top because anyone with Mafuba can end him. I... what? You understand Mafuba is a rare technique that few characters have access to, right? Immortal Mr. Satan can still outlast opponents that can't bypass his immortality, including those that are str...
- Sun Feb 11, 2024 10:37 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
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Yes, Zamasu is a villain who cheats and steals (the norm in Dragon Ball villains); that has no bearing on his placement in the power scale. Otherwise, we might as well place Granola and Gas forever in Bardock tier. *sigh*... Hombre, you're clearly not getting this. What Zamasu does has every bearin...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:53 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
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Gotta love the irony of being accused of posting in bad faith by the guy with the literal Zamasu avatar and username. I'll let that speak for itself. But no, it was that easy because that's exactly what happened. The whole narrative thrust of Zamasu is that he's a scrub in the grand scheme who was s...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:03 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Yet Moro was clearly neither more durable nor more difficult to defeat than Infinite Zamasu. Goku has red button. Goku presses red button. Red button goes boom and Goku escapes. That's the "difficulty" of Infinite Zamasu. The original native language dialogue is correct – he doesn't come ...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:56 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Strength is not just power level. Strength as a term refers to everything, including endurance, stamina, energy, speed, etc. Yes, and Jiren is better than Zamasu in all categories as a fighter. So is Moro, who Goku referred to as his "toughest" foe (タフ historically refers to durability/di...
- Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:25 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
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I think Goku and Vegeta could've taken on LSS Broly from the Movie because Granolah and Gas's wish should've made them stronger than him, but "DBSSH Broly" is stronger than pretty much everyone except Frieza because of Victory Uchida's comment about Broly being unsurpassed still. Uchida's...
- Fri Feb 09, 2024 3:59 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Toriyama's quote on Gohan being the strongest ("or so it is said") is specifically about his role in the film, where he needs Piccolo's motivation rather than Goku's to come to terms with his power. That's the context of what he's getting at for anyone reading the whole passage. We've clea...
- Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:50 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
- Views: 3988802
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Going to make my first post here in three years, good to see some familiar faces are still here! I'll be posting a tier list for the top 100 strongest characters in the series (imho), would appreciate if you guys can critique it or let me know if I missed someone. Welcome back, buddy! Thus far, FP ...
- Tue Jan 30, 2024 10:37 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
- Replies: 1236
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
It's not literal chibification. If it was chibification, you wouldn't have characters losing facial hair or Toriyama's design notes mentioning that they changed Goku and co.'s facial features. De-aging also isn't necessarily tantamount to "time reversal", so the spell isn't restoring lost ...
- Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:19 pm
- Forum: Video Games
- Topic: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
- Replies: 916
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Re: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
Damn near 11 years since its debut and Super Saiyan God remains my favorite transformation in the franchise, so I'm satisfied. Going back to this, my only nitpick so far is that they made God's hair identical to Goku's base form. The spikes are supposed to be more pronounced/visible in SSG, with no...
- Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:51 am
- Forum: Video Games
- Topic: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
- Replies: 916
- Views: 97839
Re: "Sparking! ZERO" Official Announcement & Pre-Release Discussion Thread
Damn near 11 years since its debut and Super Saiyan God remains my favorite transformation in the franchise, so I'm satisfied. It's funny that they dedicated way more time to it than Blue in the trailer, despite the latter being the "brand" form. But even if this showcase wasn't everyone's...
- Mon Jan 29, 2024 12:13 am
- Forum: General Franchise Discussion
- Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
- Replies: 1236
- Views: 94536
Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Very cool! Trailer looked incredible and I loved every bit of Toriyama's pared down RPG-ish designs and Nakatsuru's adaptation of them. I can tell they're still holding back a lot of info though, including just basic plot stuff. Can't wait for Fall. If Daima is as good as it looks, we're in for a fu...
- Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:13 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
- Views: 3988802
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
The Broly panel being included alongside Grand Priest confused the living hell out of people, including @SupaChronicles. The dragon-ball-official.com interviews are always pre-planned and intended for consumption. If a giant image of Broly flashing across the screen as his name is mentioned doesn't...
- Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:43 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
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Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Toyo is just having to course correct after getting a memo from upper management that Broly is still the strongest To be clear, I'm in full agreement with that. Extradiegetically, it is indeed a retcon of sorts. Intradiegetically, this month's dialogue is Toyotaro applying his own course correction...
- Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:35 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 136
- Views: 17441
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
I know we're somewhat veering off-topic here, but I feel compelled to at least respond to this point that relates to some of what we've seen from this chapter and more broadly the manga in general: To be totally honest, I feel like Toyotaro is a HUGE Vegeta fanboy. Like, it legit always feels he goe...
- Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:44 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
- Views: 3988802
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
The movies and manga aren't doing anything different with Broly. Over half of what I just quoted above including Saikyo Jump was specifically in reference to the manga, the manga acts like the 2018 movie happened as-is (where Broly's FP form is literally compared to Beerus), and nobody ever directly...
- Tue Jan 23, 2024 3:38 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
- Views: 3988802
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
"He's a Saiyan like me, but he's probably even stronger than Beerus-sama!" – Dragon Ball Super: Broly (2018) "Frankly, the enemy Goku and co. are up against in this movie is the strongest. Those who trust Goku will win may lose confidence, so be careful." (…) "Destructive po...
- Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:22 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
- Replies: 39983
- Views: 3988802
Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Which Toyotaro did when he adapted Super Hero as a manga arc :P Correct, although I'd say he postdicts it well enough to present a logical in-universe explanation behind why Broly was discounted in the Granolah arc. Toyotaro just made his full power from the 2018 movie inaccessible. Even in that mo...
- Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:55 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 136
- Views: 17441
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
There is no indication that Goku kidnapped Uub from his family and he didn't take Uub with him against his wishes. Huh? I'm talking about Goku's family, not Oob's. Not once did I mention kidnapping. Anyway, I don't feel like making a quote-by-quote breakdown about why you either missed the point of...