Kanzenshuu

WittyUsername wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:59 pm

Sikat wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:45 pm Ultra Instinct and Destruction are largely just techniques.

They’re techniques and transformations.

Largely techniques. Goku/Vegeta (and everybody else) can use Ultra Instinct/Destruction no matter their forms.

That’s silly, since Beerus isn’t the only GoD who uses Destruction. I think the whole purple headcanon spawns from the anime, with Toppo’s Toei exclusive transformation.


His hair color may not be purple, but it's possible that his aura is. Even if you disregard Toppo's form, the movies still ...

The manga always specifies whenever there’s a color change for somebody’s hair, even when it doesn’t have to. So if Vegeta’s hair is a different color Granolah, or somebody else, will state so next chapter (Aug. 18). If not then it’s to be assumed it’s just black, which seems very likely.
Well ...

Jack Bz wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:09 pm But I think it's very very clear that SSBe and SSB Kaioken have very direct adaptations by Toyo in the manga.

No.

Goku never uses the technique Kaioken in the manga, and Vegeta’s SSB from the ToP is not the anime exclusive eyesore transformation.

They're not exactly the same thing
Yeah, they have nothing in common.

And Vegeta gets a new form that is an evolution of super Saiyan blue.
It’s never called that. Instead it’s just stated to be “that blue form.”


They are just called the same thing by V-Jump

But yeah other then that ...

Ultra Instinct and Destruction are largely just techniques.

Jack Bz wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:37 pm They're not exactly the same thing

Yeah, they have nothing in common.

And Vegeta gets a new form that is an evolution of super Saiyan blue.

It’s never called that. Instead it’s just stated to be “that blue form.”

The manga always specifies whenever there’s a color change for somebody’s hair, even when it doesn’t have to. So if Vegeta’s hair is a different color Granolah, or somebody else, will state so next chapter (Aug. 18). If not then it’s to be assumed it’s just black, which seems very likely.

Either Concede that fact or bring in actual evidence.

I posted evidence from both the manga and anime, you just keep ignoring it despite these being posts right above yours. At this point it’s clear you’re not here to have an honest discussion, and you will refuse to ever admit you’re wrong. So ...

mute_proxy wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:21 pm

Sikat wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:19 pm

Brettjr25 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:19 pm You should show some humility and just back down and admit you were wrong. Nothing is gained through intentional ignorance.

^^^

That was pointed towards you.

Now you’re just being toxic.

Brettjr25 wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 2:19 pm You should show some humility and just back down and admit you were wrong. Nothing is gained through intentional ignorance.

^^^

Ah yes, the people who claimed Super Boo absorbing Gohan gained him power which rivals SS3 Goku know more than what the manga itself says / shows.

Stop appealing to a false authority and use your eyes to see these are not the same:

https://i.imgur.com/rBoSx87.png

https://i.imgur.com/vKMB2Ec ...

Uh. Thanks for proving me right, and Goku never states he can sense it?

Once more, feel =/= sense.

Yes they do

Repeating this doesn’t make it true. You are highly misinformed. I recommend reading the story for yourself and not believing the lies people tell you over the internet.


https://i.imgur.com/LwMZJSA.png

https://i.imgur.com/q4MXk2z.png

Blue Kaioken and Blue Evolution ...

It does though. They're not named as such, but they appear on the manga.

I don’t think we’re reading the same manga then, because they definitely do not.



Yes they do

Repeating this doesn’t make it true. You are highly misinformed. I recommend reading the story for yourself and not ...

Goku clearly stated on 2 occasions that he could sense the chi of a god
Post the scan then. Post Goku, not in his god form, saying those exact words - that he can sense the chi of a god.


I thought they could both sense the chi of a god

Base (non-god) Goku and Vegeta cannot.

https://i.imgur ...

Thani wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:31 am

Sikat wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:07 am

pepd wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:35 pm It wouldn't be the first time tho, we already had SSBe, kaioken, and various PLs.

The manga doesn’t have SSBE or SSB Kaioken.

It does though. They're not named as such, but they appear on the manga.

I don’t think we’re reading the same manga then, because they definitely do not.

So Base Goku can sense Godly Chi now…

No. Goku, and Vegeta, are just familiar with the presence by now.

Only gods can sense godly chi.

Headcanon.

False.

Goku literally said he could feel that it’s God Ki.

You don’t really know anything about this franchise.

Feel =/= Sense

Base Goku ...

pepd wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:35 pm It wouldn't be the first time tho, we already had SSBe, kaioken, and various PLs.

The manga doesn’t have SSBE or SSB Kaioken.

GodVegetto91 wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:28 pm So Base Goku can sense Godly Chi now…

No. Goku, and Vegeta, are just familiar with the presence by now.

Only gods can sense godly chi.