Kanzenshuu

I know where that EML quote comes from. From one of the first spanish translations of the manga. I was also convinced the merger meant a 5x boost because of that translation until I watched that scene in japanese for the first time.
It turns out there is no such line, but one more vague: Many ...

Power levels Z updated + 90% of Movies

Edit: I thought there was a edit feature on here? Maybe because I'm using my phone this time? Anyways made a little adjustment to the Fusion arc

Z Movies


Movie 3

Gohan: 10k
Piccolo: 18k
Turles Initial: 24k
Goku: 36k
KK Goku: 72k
Great Ape Gohan ...

I am using exclusively manga for these estimates.

I try to avoid anime power level discussions mainly because the anime is so random, inconsistent, and contradictory, that it makes it pointless IMO. Everyone's opinion on anime PL's is probably right and wrong at the same time.

As for his ...

Re: Piccolo’s strength

This is a rough estimate of Piccolo’s power level and how it scaled through the end of Z and Super.

Thoughts?

Android 17/ Piccolo
Android 16/Imperfect Cell
Piccolo post ROSAT training
2nd form Cell
Super Vegeta
Cell Junior/ Piccolo Buu saga
Cell Games Vegeta
Cell ...

Probably, only Goku got to keep his body and hang out with Kaio.
Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Krilin, I don't think they've earned it. No matter what Z filler showed. But let's say they did, what can they do? I think Yamcha and Krilin would rather go to heaven than train forever. In the Namek arc and the ...

Re: Piccolo’s strength

This is a rough estimate of Piccolo’s power level and how it scaled through the end of Z and Super.

Thoughts?

Android 17/ Piccolo
Android 16/Imperfect Cell
Piccolo post ROSAT training
2nd form Cell
Super Vegeta
Cell Junior/ Piccolo Buu saga
Cell Games Vegeta
Cell ...

Buu saga Piccolo vs LSS Broly (M8)

Seven years after being weaker than the Cell Jrs., has he gotten to the point of being able to beat Broly's 1st coming?


I have M8 Broly ~ Perfect Cell (vs Goku) and Buu saga Piccolo is weaker than Shin who's on par with Cell Games Goku So Broly would clobber ...

Power levels Z updated + 90% of Movies

Z Movies


Movie 3

Gohan: 10k
Piccolo: 18k
Turles Initial: 24k
Goku: 36k
KK Goku: 72k
Great Ape Gohan: 100k
KK10 Goku: 360k
Turles Post Fruit: 600k

Movie 4

Krillin: 24k
Gohan: 25k
Commander zeeun: 25k
Wings: 39.5k
Medamatcha: 42k
Angila: 45k
Piccolo ...

We also need to remember that they are not sensing numbers when they are sensing power, they are just sensing and then comparing to see how strong. In Dragon Ball 180 and 260 was such a difference that King Piccolo one-shotted Goku and it was expressed that he stood no chance hence the Ultra Water ...

I can't believe it's 2024 and people are still doing mental gymnastics about who is the strongest Buu when the manga is so obvious about it. If you really need to use as a source stuff outside of it to prove your point, that should say everything about how you are grasping at straws.

It's also ...

18 thought vegeta was nothing special during their fight and even after when vegeta was beating cell she thought vegeta was "pretending to be weak" against her.

Hypothetical 5th Form Namek Frieza runs a Android saga gauntlet

1.SS Trunks Debut
2. SS Yardrat Goku
3. Android 19/20
4. Sick SS Goku
5. Piccolo Android saga
6. SS Trunks Android saga
7. SS Goku Android saga FP
8. SS Vegeta Android saga

Does he clear these savage saiyan apes?

GatoF wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2024 6:55 pm SSJ2 Teen Gohan x Super Perfect Cell

This time both at 100% in a 1 vs 1 with no outside positive or negative influence (no vegeta, no goku talk etc)

Equals but Cell would be the better perfecter fighter.

Pui Pui and Yokan vs Namek Frieza

Dabura vs super pefect cell


Pui Pui gets obliterated but yakon is on par or a little weaker but since Frieza doesn't have knowledge about his ki succ he might lose also he fights in the dark and this frieza can't sense ki so it will make things difficult ...

Pui Pui and Yokan vs Namek Frieza

Dabura vs super pefect cell


Pui Pui gets obliterated but yakon is on par or a little weaker but since Frieza doesn't have knowledge about his ki succ he might lose also he fights in the dark and this frieza can't sense ki so it will make things difficult ...

Maybe Frieza trained in hell in this timeline too but got too cocky to go gold which is why Gohan beat him.

(DBS) Base Broly vs (DBS) 4th form Freeza


Brolys Angry form thingy is like a great ape boost and he was holding his own against SSB Goku so Base Broly likely slams.


SSjin 2 Vegeta (Pre Majin) vs Super Perfect Cell (manga)


Vegeta a lil bit stronger so it may be like a goku vs cell type ...

Future Krillin vs Goku [Can only use default Kaioken; Ginyu arc].
Future Piccolo vs Goku [Can only use default Kaioken; Mecha arc].
Future Vegeta [Super Saiyan] vs Goku [Super Saiyan; Mecha arc].


1) The official numbers have Krilin losing greatly to even base Goku, but I don't think he would ...

Hello everyone. I decided to create a bunch of Piccolo Post ROSAT vs Fights. I've noticed a lot of people put Piccolo Post ROSAT at 50 percent MSSJ Goku and a lot put him at Semi Perfect Cell but the Majority seem to put him at ASSJ Vegeta.

so here are the battles list who you think would win in ...

I'm looking for opinions on this so how strong would you have these guys on the Mecha Freeza arc?

Son Goku:
-- Super Saiyan:
Future Trunks:
-- Super Saiyan:
Freeza [Mecha]:
King Cold:
Vegeta:
Piccolo:
Son Gohan:
Krillin:
Tenshinhan:
Yamcha:
Chiaotzu:

P.S. Using the official power ...