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by Terra-jin
Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

You're thinking that a single point in time corresponds to another point in time in another timeline. That's correct. This is a consequence of viewing timelines as separate worlds. Each timeline is flowing independently. If this is the case, then why did you agree that 785 corresponds with 765 befo...
by Terra-jin
Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:47 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

I completely agree with those four points, but not that conclusion. These points do not necessary entail what you are saying but I understand that is one interpretation. Those four points are correct as it stands and what actually occurs in the manga, Daizenshuu, and Chouzenshuu. But the logic you ...
by Terra-jin
Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

\ 1. Right before Trunks' second trip, it's 785 in his timeline. 2. Meanwhile, it's 765 in the main timeline. 3. After his second trip, it's 767 in the main timeline. 4. Meanwhile, (according to you) it's still 785 in Trunks' future. Agreed on the above points? I still agree with these four points....
by Terra-jin
Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:54 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

1. Trunks' future remains at 785 during 765 thru 767 . This is not what I'm saying. As we discussed earlier, an Age (or point in time) in one timeline does not equal to an Age (or point in time) in another timeline. Time isn't being frozen in the future such that it is Age 785 while two years pass ...
by Terra-jin
Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

I think we are going around in circles. It seems so :P Let's try this. 1. Trunks' future remains at 785 during 765 thru 767 . 2. The opposite happens if someone travels from 765 to 787 , instead of 785 to 767 . 3. If both these trips would occur simultaneously, it would lead to a logical contradict...
by Terra-jin
Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:19 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

shadowfox87 wrote:Therefore, it is still Age 785 and not Age 787.
This would lead to the logical contradiction that I've described earlier. Therefore, it cannot be 785; it is 787 (contrary to the guidebook material, not contrary to the original manga).
by Terra-jin
Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

In that case, Trunks must've created a new timeline when he returned to 785 instead of 787. Since it's logically necessary that his future was at 787, if he travels to 785 he travels two years into the past of his timeline. And, since going to the past creates new timelines, another one is created w...
by Terra-jin
Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

Hence, if your theory that the future timeline is fast forwarded were true, then the year in the future after he returned after the Cell Saga should have been Age 787, but it was not. Most people assume that 785 is the year that Trunks returned, but this is not necessarily the case. In this explana...
by Terra-jin
Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:17 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

Fair enough. I'd propose this formulation:

If someone travels 'y' years into the future (of any timeline), all timelines are advanced 'y' years.

The implication of this rule is that Trunks' future is at 787 after he arrives in 767, not 785.
by Terra-jin
Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:51 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

Hmmmm, we seem to be talking past each other. I agree with you on all points in your previous post. Perhaps this will clear things up: 1. Right before Trunks' second trip, it's 785 in his timeline. 2. Meanwhile, it's 765 in the main timeline. 3. After his second trip, it's 767 in the main timeline. ...
by Terra-jin
Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:03 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

He spends "b" years in the alternate timeline, then "b" years will also pass in the future timeline from where he was from. I agree with this. Time spent in one timeline also passes in the other(s). his own future will always be the same time he left, year X. If that's true, then you cannot deny th...
by Terra-jin
Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:22 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

Alright, so when the main timeline is at 767, Trunks' future is still at 785. This means that from the perspective of the main timeline, time in Trunks' future stood still for two years. In other words: if we would formulate a time travel rule, it would be that when you travel to the future, you fas...
by Terra-jin
Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:54 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

Trunks' time machine is programmed to go to the date in the future from when he left the last time. Trunks traveled the first time from Age 784 (future) to Age 764 (past). He gave Goku the heart medicine and then went back to the future, Age 784. He spent less than a day in the main timeline, so le...
by Terra-jin
Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:46 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

It's true that Trunks spent one year in the future and went back three years further than the last time. That means that right before his second trip, his timeline was at 785 and the past was at 765. Trunks aimed at 767, so he basically went two years into the future. The question is: after Trunks a...
by Terra-jin
Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:09 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited
Replies: 51
Views: 9794

Re: Dragon Ball Timelines Revisited

Hi shadowfox87, I've got a couple questions on your theory (particularly the rules by which it operates). If one hour passes in timeline X, does timeline Y also advance by one hour? I think so, and the DBS manga does state this (I don't expect you'd disagree). Here's a tougher one. There's two timel...
by Terra-jin
Sun May 27, 2018 4:10 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: I'm Surprised Goku/Vegeta/Trunks Never Attempt to Remove Goku Black's Time Ring
Replies: 16
Views: 1305

Re: I'm Surprised Goku/Vegeta/Trunks Never Attempt to Remove Goku Black's Time Ring

I don't see any way for Blacks statement about the time ring's protection to make logical sense. Since none of the gods have shown that they fully understand time travel, I dismiss Blacks statement as simply false / misinformed. In my headcanon, he comes from an unseen timeline.
by Terra-jin
Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:26 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: 5 cells over 4 timelines.
Replies: 28
Views: 2430

Re: 5 cells over 4 timelines.

Qaaman follows the assumption that a jump to the past creates a single new timeline (as opposed to creating a copy of each currently existing timeline). Under that assumption, you can end up with a number of individuals different from the number of timelines (so 5 Cells from 4 timelines). So the Tru...
by Terra-jin
Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is there a need for the existence of this specific Trunks' timeline?
Replies: 68
Views: 4012

Re: Is there a need for the existence of this specific Trunks' timeline?

Personally, I regard the matter of what's canon or authoritative as purely subjective. It's entirely up to the fan what he/she accepts as canon. None of it is actually true, anyway ;)
by Terra-jin
Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:03 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is there a need for the existence of this specific Trunks' timeline?
Replies: 68
Views: 4012

Re: Is there a need for the existence of this specific Trunks' timeline?

The manga doesn't specify. According to Herms (ref: History of Ever) the Daizenshuu 7 is the only source that mentions Unseen Trunks using the remote. He further says that "apparently there are problems with the shut down controller scenario", but leaves out why exactly.
by Terra-jin
Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:36 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is there a need for the existence of this specific Trunks' timeline?
Replies: 68
Views: 4012

Re: Is there a need for the existence of this specific Trunks' timeline?

I think so and it makes sense. Firstly, the Androids blow up most the lab before they leave (at least in the Z Timeline), and Trunks and Krillin would of course return later to the secret basement lab. But second and more importantly, Dr. Gero made a creation whose power is dependent on absorbing t...