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A fairly big one I think is how many fans mistook the heart medicine Trunks gave Goku in the Cell arc for a vaccine and not just a cure.

Yup, everybody counts it as Goku being dumb but like...that's not how antidote works, guys! Never mind that Trunks even in the dub says, "Take when you start ...

I feel like Toriyama's take on a lot of the characters have always been so much more interesting than what Toei and by extension most of the fanbase sees, particularly Goku, Piccolo and Vegeta. I know we had a thread about "Toriyama's more ruthless Vegeta" but I find it fascinating that even ...

I don't think Trunks should've been the hero, as the ending he got was exactly what it should've been, but I do think his and Gohan's relationship was a MASSIVE missed opportunity. Really, what should've happened was Trunks becomes a big bro mentor for Kid Gohan in an inverse of their Future ...

Fox Kids reruns before shcool in 1999, though i only know it was Dragon Ball Z in hindsight - the episode where Vegeta steals the Dragon Balls from Frieza's ship after Zarbon revives him, specifically the scene were he's hiding behind the wall and says, "This is like taking candy from a baby!" His ...

All this talk makes me weep for when Funimation was still allowed to dub all of the One Piece intros

Bro, there have been multiple kid's shows and movies in the West where the protagonists are worse than Goku. Goku still cares about his family & friends at the end of the day. He would've fit right in with main characters of Western cartoons back then just fine.


Name them. Are they an icon ...

What are they gonna do about Vegeta, tell a grown ass man to go home? If the only guy strong enough to do anything about him has no problem with him, that doesn't leave many alternatives that wouldn't be excessive.

The Cell arc itself presents a million and one workarounds, excuses and other ...

This is honestly running away from the point:

Both Vegeta and Pan, regardless whether they're written to be anti-heroes, good guys or straight-up villains, are written on purpose to act shitty and having to eventually overcome their insecurities and become better people. That's called "character ...

Kenji wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2026 10:34 am Ew, Disney.
Couldn't they have picked a less shitty company?

Well, it's Disney

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Doctor Seaweed Roll wrote: Sat May 23, 2026 2:15 am

jjgp1112 wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 3:37 pm OG Dragon Ball was already so silly an occasionally meta that this feels redundant.

Did you watch any episodes yet? Trust me i reccomend it

I did. Didn't like it at all. Felt forced

Kid Buu wrote: Fri May 22, 2026 1:59 pm Isn't Mr. Satan based on Bob Sapp?

Bob Sapp didn't become a fighter until nearly a decade after Dragon Ball ended.

You are getting this backwards it was the editors that insisted on changing the villains all the time. You seem to assume Toriyama was a maverick writer that ignored what his sensible editors adviced him to do but this was brought on by their decisions. I know Toriyama has shown he really does ...

If you have the Disney+/Hulu package in the US, Kai and Dragon Ball are on there too

Back int he 80s and 90s, he was just another writer, he wasn't "Toriyama Sensei", so editors and the anime's producers weren't under nay pressure to blindly follow him, which resulted in them either requesting changes to be made to the story (his editors) or changing it/expanding it themselves ...

Can't say there's a single thing there I disagreed with. Like yeah...that's pretty much on the money when it comes to the creative process. An outside opinion that pushes you beyond those first thoughts is absolutely crucial to any work.

"It's just a persona, don't be butthurt about what he's saying."
Everybody wears a mask. There are countless studies detailing how human beings resort to extreme negativity and a "comedian persona" to cover up their own traumas and insecurities, and their inability to communicate like a healthy ...

kiarasuraru wrote: Sun May 10, 2026 10:53 am Snip

I was agreeing with you lol

The problem with Torishima's remarks in regards to 'modern manga' is that it just comes across as him viewing commercial art through that commercial lens and not through an artistic one. He worked in selling magazines for kids and he had his own restrictive view on how that would operate. It ...

All Imma say is it's a reason Torishima got to the position he's in. I don't completely agree with his assessment of Daima but the comments are certainly in the right neighborhood of the root issue.

I also don't agree with his One Piece opinion (aside from the horrendously cluttered panels) but ...