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by Miracles
Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:43 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 40006
Views: 4181340

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Should end with Beerus. This whole thing started because Beerus is the strongest entity in the universe [Only Whis is stated to be stronger], who was looking for a rival. No one ever surpassed Beerus in the movies, manga and anime anyway.
by Miracles
Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:38 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 42787
Views: 5994664

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

In light of Akira Toriyama's untimely passing, my continued readership of Super, at this point, is going one of two ways: 1. If Toriyama was actively working with Toyotaro on a future story arc for the past couple of years and much of the plot outline is already finished, it's certainly posthumous ...
by Miracles
Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 162
Views: 35827

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

Pertaining to the chapter Beerus is right to ask Whis if Silver-Haired Goku is Goku's strongest form. Despite Goku already telling Gohan that both should use their best. Goku held back SSJ3 against Majin Vegeta, He lied about using full power against Fat Buu. Held back Full power Blue in the Future ...
by Miracles
Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:14 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 162
Views: 35827

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

Doesn't change the fact that his rage boost ability is there; exists. So you can't give me a straight answer then? In turn admitting Gohan's rage boosts aren't consistent, contrary to what you claimed before? If the writing wasn't "bad" you would be able to give me a simple logical answer...
by Miracles
Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 162
Views: 35827

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

There was no plot twist. Your simply reaching and connecting dots that aren't there. It's stated that Gohan has rage boost it's not stated that he can't do it. So between the Cell Games and Super Hero, where were these massive rage boosts when Gohan needed them? Doesn't change the fact that his rag...
by Miracles
Fri Mar 01, 2024 5:27 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 162
Views: 35827

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

It does exist hence why Goku and Vegeta state themselves despite his lack of training that Gohan could go into a frenzy and be the strongest. It was building up to a plot twist, like when Tien thought Goku could defeat Freeza because still had kaio-ken in his back pocket when he was mistaken. Chapt...
by Miracles
Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 162
Views: 35827

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

In the Buu Saga Goku also told Gohan to get mad so he could release all his true potential and he wouldn't lose to anyone in the entire world. You do realise Goku and Vegeta's words were just building up to the reveal that Gohan couldn't get anymore meaningful rage boost power-ups? Chapter: 458 (DB...
by Miracles
Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:04 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 162
Views: 35827

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

But Gohan exploded against Radditz when he got angry. Radditz noted that his power changes with his emotions. Against Vegeta and Nappa, Piccolo said if Gohan put his mind to it his power surpasses his [Piccolo uses a similar line about Goahn in Super Hero]. Against Second form Freeza, Gohan snapped ...
by Miracles
Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 162
Views: 35827

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

I hate how, every time now after Goku’s fight with Granolah, his UI has been depicted as simply a generic power-up. Gohan's Beast form is just that, a monstrous raw numbers boost that somehow puts him on the level of gods, kinda like Jiren's strength. But as the Granolah arc clarified, Goku’s silve...
by Miracles
Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 40006
Views: 4181340

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Moro could probably use his magic to slow down Gogeta/Vegetto somehow. Remember he pinned down UIO Goku? That or Piccolo just has the IQ of your average Fanverse poster. Moro > Fusion is completely off the table. Piccolo's line is basically "Fusion would've been our trump card if not for Spiri...
by Miracles
Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 40006
Views: 4181340

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The dispute is; if Moro didn't want Vegeta to touch him with Spirit Fission because he would of caused damage to make the technique work against Moro. Then how in the world is Moro 7-3 going to tag and damage a current fusion dance or Patora merge with Goku and Vegeta? Thoughts? Moro could probably...
by Miracles
Fri Feb 23, 2024 10:28 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 40006
Views: 4181340

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Also what do you guys think about this scenario brought up in fanverse...? https://i.postimg.cc/BnYgCBzX/ZSLHlkr.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/jSdcNFZp/umoUqSN.jpg The dispute is; if Moro didn't want Vegeta to touch him with Spirit Fission because he would of caused damage to make the technique work agai...
by Miracles
Wed Feb 21, 2024 10:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 40006
Views: 4181340

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

lol, I'm taking what is said at face value. Posters don't even realize I'm not choosing a side. Just stating the facts that we know in context. I'm giving no conclusions on what Goku can use, has developed, or not in his training with Silver Haired . There has been bad reading within the DB fandom [...
by Miracles
Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:27 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 40006
Views: 4181340

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The confusion is here: Beerus is not making a statement of fact but asking a question . Whis's answer is an assumption with the word "seems." Let it go man. There are no lines to read between. MUI is Goku's strongest form. Toyo or Toriyama aren't pulling a 4-D Chess gambit on the audience...
by Miracles
Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 40006
Views: 4181340

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The confusion is here: Beerus is not making a statement of fact but asking a question. Whis's answer is an assumption with the word "seems."
by Miracles
Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:07 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 40006
Views: 4181340

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Also Beerus asks Whis if the current Silver Haired UI is Goku's strongest form. Whis assumes it to be the case with it "seems." Remember, Whis and Beerus were absent for the battle against Gas. Whis did not show up until after the battle to heal Monaito. Factually we only know Goku's True...
by Miracles
Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:16 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 40006
Views: 4181340

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Also Beerus asks Whis if the current Silver Haired UI is Goku's strongest form. Whis assumes it to be the case with it "seems." Remember, Whis and Beerus were absent for the battle against Gas. Whis did not show up until after the battle to heal Monaito. Factually we only know Goku's True ...
by Miracles
Sat Feb 17, 2024 9:07 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 40006
Views: 4181340

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Do my eyes deceive me? It's the start of the skirmish between Goku and Gohan, and people are writing Gohan off compared to Freeza? The guy whom Toriyama said is "actually" strongest and claimed or it is also said? Since all he has to do is get angry and sneeze and he explodes with more pow...
by Miracles
Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:00 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 162
Views: 35827

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

Toriyama is focused on Sandland and Daima, he has no idea that the manga is still running. Everything you can enjoy in these pages is pure genius from Toyo and Uchida. I doubt this heavily, Toriyama is not involved in the DBS manga right now. Literally Toyotaro in a recent interview from January sa...
by Miracles
Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 162
Views: 35827

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 102 - Official Discussion Thread

More Fat Gotenks. You're a true comedy genius, Akira. Toriyama is focused on Sandland and Daima, he has no idea that the manga is still running. Everything you can enjoy in these pages is pure genius from Toyo and Uchida. I doubt this heavily, Toriyama not being involved in the DBS manga right.