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by Miracles
Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:01 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Zamasu literally threatened two timelines. Also y'all, Anime Jiren should definitively be above Movie Broly. Broly was only maybe stronger than Beerus whereas Jiren was stated to be stronger than the Gods of destruction as a whole, and then he went on to surpass that power in his "Super Full P...
by Miracles
Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:21 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: There was no reason for Gas to fear UE Vegeta.
Replies: 4
Views: 1641

Re: There was no reason for Gas to fear UE Vegeta.

The point is, for Vegeta to make Gas flinch [Put up defenses] as the strongest, when earlier he was laughing at him shows Vegeta was getting stronger. Nothing to do with Gas being afraid or the speed which Vegeta was coming. Vegeta was losing stamina in his pursuit towards him.
by Miracles
Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:58 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

How do we see the top fighters in relation to the other gods of destruction, meaning aside from Beerus who is clearly still the strongest? I was just reading the pre-ToP stuff the other day and saw the part where goku went ssg against toppo, and one of the GoD's said he was already at their level. ...
by Miracles
Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Hopefully, this chapter will clear up where Gohan stands. To be on par with Black Freeza he'd need to oneshot Goku, although narratively that wouldn't be the smartest thing to do. Per Dragonball's history, when the star, I expect Gohan to be more than enough for anyone. Just in this chapter Gohan c...
by Miracles
Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:37 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Hopefully, this chapter will clear up where Gohan stands. To be on par with Black Freeza he'd need to oneshot Goku, although narratively that wouldn't be the smartest thing to do. Per Dragonball's history, when the star, I expect Gohan to be more than enough for anyone. Just in this chapter Gohan c...
by Miracles
Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:09 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Cheelai asked what are they going to do about Black Freeza? Right now, Goku, Vegeta and Broly are not the answer to Freeza's Black form. As Goku said he is "something else." Beerus isn't threatened and let's Goku know that when he finally surpasses him that he'll make him God of Destructio...
by Miracles
Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The Broly panel being included alongside Grand Priest confused the living hell out of people, including @SupaChronicles. It was Uchida who name dropped Broly and Toyotaro ignores all those names in his rankings, citing Goku, Vegeta and Granolah as the 3 strongest in the universe. Uchida likely ante...
by Miracles
Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:24 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Your point being your just going to ignore everything ranging the manga's narrative, the supplementary manga material, and even fucking world of ToyotarToriyama himself, All to push your baseless "Broly isn't one of the strongest" claim? Ok Like those 2 things you constantly cite as proof...
by Miracles
Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:51 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Again, you post something that proves my exact point. Thanks. Your point being your just going to ignore everything ranging the manga's narrative, the supplementary manga material, and even fucking world of ToyotarToriyama himself, All to push your baseless "Broly isn't one of the strongest&qu...
by Miracles
Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:14 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 136
Views: 18192

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread

This was also included in the printed Jump magazine, more Black Freeza hyping. https://twitter.com/TooRealUnreal/status/1748406441239560602 This is being taken out of context for this discussion, and isn't even from the current (March 2024) issue... it's from last month's (February 2024) issue, the...
by Miracles
Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:07 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The problem is fans think official sources override/same as canon material. This is not the case. They even think this is the case for the manga and movies. Which the head of the Dragonball Room [or Former] said they are not. We clearly see this on screen and on paper. DBS: Super Hero in the movie ...
by Miracles
Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The problem is fans think official sources override/same as canon material. This is not the case. They even think this is the case for the manga and movies. Which the head of the Dragonball Room [or Former] said they are not. We clearly see this on screen and on paper. DBS: Super Hero in the movie u...
by Miracles
Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:30 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Where is that stated? He wasn't even considered among the tops in the universe in Granolah. So how is he going to be among the tops even in Super Hero? Goku and Vegeta being nervous of him loosing control during training, Goku listing Broly as one of the people he and Vegeta need to surpass, Toriya...
by Miracles
Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Ok lemme stop you right there, I see you trying to reframe your original argument from "Broly isn't one of the strongest" to "Broly isn't the strongest" No one here ever claimed the latter (Broly got wreaked by Gogeta in his debut film for kami sake) Meanwhile for the former arg...
by Miracles
Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 136
Views: 18192

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread

Wow, someone actually going to bat for some of the dumbest lines in Dragon Ball history. Anyway the major issue with the meditation scene in Super Hero is that Goku has ZERO idea what Vegeta is doing at all, he doesn't even identify it as meditation, he just thinks Vegeta is lazing around for no re...
by Miracles
Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:52 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

False. Black Freeza is a transformation from the Granolah arc. Ok lemme stop you right there, I see you trying to reframe your original argument from "Broly isn't one of the strongest" to "Broly isn't the strongest" No one here ever claimed the latter (Broly got wreaked by Goget...
by Miracles
Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:49 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Then along came Super Hero and it's manga adaptation, Now he's the man again :wave: Only if you magically handwave the two arcs in the manga since the Broly movie. :lol: Which Toyotaro did when he adapted Super Hero as a manga arc :P False. Black Freeza is a transformation from the Granolah arc.
by Miracles
Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:30 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 136
Views: 18192

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 101 - Official Discussion Thread

Goku does not remember the training with the gods [Korin, Kami, Popo, Kai etc] he had back in DB hence why his training with the gods [Beerus/Whis] now has suffered.Which was solely dependent on the spirit. Which is what Ultra Instinct is about. Goku was concerned about power in latter DB, controlli...
by Miracles
Mon Jan 22, 2024 1:00 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

shadd21 wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 11:49 pm
Miracles wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:51 pm It seems people just can't accept the fact that Broly was never the man since his movie debut. Too bad.
Then along came Super Hero and it's manga adaptation, Now he's the man again :wave:
Only if you magically handwave the two arcs in the manga since the Broly movie. :lol:
by Miracles
Sun Jan 21, 2024 10:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4000643

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Re-reading the chapter and Vegeta states explicitly that Broly can't access his full power because he's scared of snapping. Vegeta also says "to battle without losing yourself is an achievement, but you seem unable to unleash your true might" seems pretty explicit that Broly can't access ...