Kanzenshuu

If you're going to put that much effort into something, why not make original material? Well, whatever makes you happy.

Well, if that is the case, then Akira Toriyama should have never made Dragonball, but I can see your point.

Dragonball is an incredibly loose adaptation of Journey to the West ...

SSJ Helldog wrote:If you're going to put that much effort into something, why not make original material? Well, whatever makes you happy.

Well, if that is the case, then Akira Toriyama should have never made Dragonball, but I can see your point.

I had the idea to redraw the manga from the beginning of Z. My question is, would anyone be interested in also doing this, and compare results? What I had in mind was:

A manga basically telling the exact same story, just drawn in another artists style, and/or expresses new ideas to the story, but ...

This is a classic example of you doing absolutely nothing other than putting words in my mouth in an attempt at humiliation. Concluding it with "Not trying to sound like an ass" just drives the point home.

Do I have a problem with it? No. The threads don't get locked on principle alone, and ...

Anyway, what is this obsession with figuring out what the Z Fighters could or couldn't survive? First knives in their sleep, now this. Is this a sign of some subconscious grudge against the characters?
I truly don't get it, either, myself.

I'd love a breakdown of demographics for people who are ...

SSJ2bardock wrote:

teotihuacan wrote:can anyone tell me how to do the block that makes your opponent bounce back, and it makes a really loud noise? also, how do you properly use L2+dash?

You have to correctly block their smash attack by blocking in the same direction that they were smashing.

Thanks!

can anyone tell me how to do the block that makes your opponent bounce back, and it makes a really loud noise? also, how do you properly use L2+dash?

so you're saying the daizenshuu is wrong? eat shit.
Yes, I'm saying the daizenshuu is wrong. If you are stupid enough to put the daizenshuu (wich wasn't made by toriyama) at the same level or even in a higher level of reliability than the manga itself, then I can only say one thing, eat shit ...

freezamite wrote:

SSJ goku is 150,000,000. freeza is 120,000,000 (100%)

Impossible, with a difference of 10% you can destroy your enemy without any fear of being defeat.

so you're saying the daizenshuu is wrong? eat shit.

SSJ goku is 150,000,000. freeza is 120,000,000 (100%)

Saiyan Saga

Gohan: 981

Kuririn: 1,083

Namek Saga

Gohan: 1,500

Kuririn: 1,500

G ohan can have a zenkai I guess, but being that no physical training took place for G ohan and K uririn between getting out of the hospital and arriving on N amek, I 'm going to have to say image training increases ...

Nope.

I remember the picture of SSJ4 Gohan with glasses. Finding out that it was fake was disappointing.

Q uoted for truth .

A lso, I remember hearing in middle school that X icor was conceived in G oku's dreams. H e was flying around the universe (post- GT ) searching for people to train with, and ...

Hmm, interesting..

I'm not sure if I agree with consistent growths, because there are so many times characters reach an apparent limit or wall that needs to be surpassed. The power gains on Namek were crazy, too -- some of the zenkais were ridiculously big.

As for Tenshinhan, I dunno... Kikoho ...

I try to keep a consistent growth in the levels that is comparable to pre-Freeza power levels. Vegeta's ozaru power level is 94,000 because of the energy required to from an artifical moon. I have Butta, Jheese, and Reacoom at different levels because I just can't buy that they are all supposed to ...

I think power levels, scouters, etc were an inherently flawed system. As Vegeta later put it, they can't be reduced to simple numbers. Ki is too unpredictable. It's spiritual.

I'm sorry, but I really can't comment on your list. It is interesting, but I don't know how you came up with the numbers ...

Well since its not against the rules, what the hell.

son goku: 8,110
kaio-ken: 16,220
x3: 24,330
x4: 32,440
x3 kamehame-ha: 26,230
x4: 36,340
weakened: 6,440
genki-dama: 87,550
remains: 9,700

vegeta: 16,780
powered up: 18,420
garlic gun: 29,770
weakened: 12,340
after power ball: 9,400
ozaru: 94 ...

Is discussion about them frowned upon here? I never see any threads about them. Like, if I were to post a "power level listing" thread, would that be acceptable?

I always liked the movie comics. How do you feel about those? Not as pointless as this thing.

I think it gets to the point where Goku and the others should have just said, "Sorry dude, go home."