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by Cipher
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30754
Views: 2138448

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

But it really just confirmed what many of us suspected. Toriyama is involved, but his role seems closer to an editor while this arc is Toyo's baby. Without making any sweeping statements, taking into account all the behind-the-scenes comments on the arc so far, and the ways they differ from previou...
by Cipher
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30754
Views: 2138448

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Fair enough but I still would argue that confirms the initial idea of the arc was Toriyama. How the arc shaped and what it ultimately became we don’t know whether the “culprit” was Toyo or Toriyama beyond designs attributed to Toyo and a secret of a character attributed to Toriyama ( who I assume i...
by Cipher
Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:47 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 30754
Views: 2138448

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

The full first response more specifically says that Toyotaro was surprised in early story meetings by the concepts Toriyama offered (as only the original series author could), and that he feels the arc moved forward with mutual confidence that it would make for a good story. It doesn't (firmly) attr...
by Cipher
Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:58 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread
Replies: 113
Views: 22147

Re: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread

Belated chapter summaries for posterity: Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Chapter 15 summary: The Time Patrol, cooperating with Demigra and Robel, continues its assaults on the six Hell Gates maintaining the barrier to Mechickaboola’s lair in the Demon Realm. Inside the “Green” He...
by Cipher
Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:07 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread
Replies: 113
Views: 22147

Re: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread

Honest to god, thank you for laying out the differences from the arcade game, as I haven't had time to keep up with its new campaigns recently. Mechikabura raising a bird is a new tidbit, though. Apparently (per groundbreaking research), it draws from a bit of background lore in Ultimate Mission X ,...
by Cipher
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:01 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread
Replies: 113
Views: 22147

Re: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread

Dark_Tzitzimine wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:00 pm
So, how's Cumber's face?
It's just, like ... a normal face, which is only in three panels. I can take a picture tomorrow, I suppose, but it didn't even strike me as being important.
by Cipher
Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:54 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread
Replies: 113
Views: 22147

Re: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread

Sorry for the delay in posting text versions here. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Chapter 14 summary: Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Chapter 14 Date: August 2, 2019, Saikyо̄ Jump September 2019 issue Illustration page text: “The decisive battle draws near! T...
by Cipher
Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:34 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread
Replies: 1376
Views: 106206

Re: Official "Super DB Heroes 2018 Promotional Anime" Discussion Thread

Super Dragon Ball Heroes Episode 12 summary: Hearts and the others arrive in Universe 7, planning to use it as their final battleground for cultivating the Universe Seed. Goku, Trunks, Vegeta, Piccolo and Artificial Human #17 arrive to stop them. Trunks immediately rushes toward Zamasu, despite Veg...
by Cipher
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:50 am
Forum: Video Games
Topic: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 14538
Views: 1350944

Re: "(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

Good point but then again, Pan is a character with a much bigger profile than Oolong or Chammel to being simply added on a whim by the manga author. I'm pretty sure Banco must've given him the Ok to add her. Oolong strikes me as likely having been an authorial whim (which is why there's certainly r...
by Cipher
Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:16 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread
Replies: 113
Views: 22147

Re: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread

Wish I could edit posts after the two-hour window, but anyway: Small correction to the Dark Demon Realm! summary: I mistranscribed Gohan's special attack. It's 極限魔閃烈衝壁 (as opposed to 衝撃, at the end): Kyokugen Masenresshōheki, or something along the lines of "Extreme Demonic Crashing Light Wall." Or ...
by Cipher
Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:12 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Battle of Gods vs Super: Broly
Replies: 79
Views: 2638

Re: Battle of Gods vs Super: Broly

I vibe on both the multiple favorable Battle of Gods assessments in this thread (it's genuinely very funny and thematically fitting as an epilogue) and the view of Broly outlined in the opening post. I really do think its story works more than it's given credit for, though I also think it could have...
by Cipher
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:47 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread
Replies: 113
Views: 22147

Re: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread

I guess, probably of note to very few people, but for those with eagle eyes for lore consistency... The way Hearts describes Lagss' abilities this chapter feels slightly at odds with bio descriptions and earlier content, which imply a full-on magical "glassification." That would fit with Hearts aski...
by Cipher
Sat Jun 01, 2019 1:14 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread
Replies: 113
Views: 22147

Re: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread

Summary of Super Dragon Ball Heroes : Universe Mission Chapter 8 (summary of this issue's Dark Demon Realm Mission! on the previous page): Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission Chapter 8 Publication Date: June 1, 2019, Saikyō Jump July 2019 Title page flavor text (not a proper chapter title): “...
by Cipher
Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread
Replies: 113
Views: 22147

Re: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread

Dark_Tzitzimine wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 12:00 pm
And lose the chance to print more shiny Pan: Xeno cards?

Is like you don't know how Bandai works.
To be pedantic, this isn't Pan: Xeno, though. It's just Pan ... GT, I guess.

(If this isn't just Nagyama going rogue, she might get Super Saiyan though, which somehow still hasn't happened.)
by Cipher
Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:28 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Your ONE favorite character and your ONE favorite version of him/her
Replies: 54
Views: 2072

Re: Your ONE favorite character and your ONE favorite version of him/her

Probably Gotenks, as utilized in the Boo arc. I get a huge kick out of the cosmically powerful eight-year-old gambit backfiring on everyone in the moment when things are most dire, and the fact that everyone's forced to pin their hopes on him regardless as the arc progresses in a fairly sincere mann...
by Cipher
Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:00 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread
Replies: 113
Views: 22147

Re: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread

Detailed summary of Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Chapter 13: Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! Chapter 13 Publication Date: June 1, 2019, Saikyō Jump July 2019 Illustration page flavor text (not a title, though titles in collected volumes are usually shortene...
by Cipher
Sat Jun 01, 2019 4:44 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread
Replies: 113
Views: 22147

Re: Super Dragon Ball Heroes (Manga) Discussion Thread

@Cipher , you mentioned that it's XGogeta who says he's not weak enough to let himself get absorbed. Are you sure about that? I get the feeling that it's GT Gogeta who says it after he separates from Fin. Since he said something similar in the arcade. Well, regardless I really can't wait for the ch...
by Cipher
Fri May 31, 2019 1:26 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Did the franchise ever POSITIVELY affect you?
Replies: 58
Views: 2452

Re: Did the franchise ever POSITIVELY affect you?

If you trace impetuses back far enough, I obliquely became proficient in a second language because of it.

Met some cool people through it too.
by Cipher
Wed May 29, 2019 12:08 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Long Battles
Replies: 14
Views: 630

Re: Long Battles

Toriyama structures his fights around distinct beats both taken in and of themselves and as part of a larger story. The tables are constantly being flipped, characters are striving for different ways to win as the situation changes, and arc-long character development often comes to a head in the mid...
by Cipher
Fri May 17, 2019 6:51 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball should've ended at Cell
Replies: 43
Views: 1807

Re: Dragon Ball should've ended at Cell

I'm just echoing sentiments above, but yes—the "twelve universes" line could be a plot hook for future stories—as it ended up being once the series returned to serializarion—or what I took it for at the time, which was simply a thematic note. Not only has Goku, after getting to the top of his univer...