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I don't doubt that the story he wrote is also called BOG. Not that there's evidence that he considers any of it as part of the manga continuity. If he meant his version and not "Toei's version", why wouldn't he specify? Now you're being selectively literal.
I give up. You're looking to argue, not ...

You're too willing to consider unreliable evidence as evidence. Understanding how marketing "for something like this" works has nothing to do with anything. The marketing has worked, but the statement is not reliable for an obvious reason: it's not true.

Nothing ever states that BOG happened in the manga's continuity ... Not to mention that at best, it's the story that Toriyama wrote that belongs to manga's continuity, and not what Toei made of that in BOG animation . If he intended RoF to be a continuation of the manga, and calls RoF a direct ...

What is too literal? Nothing ever states that BOG happened in the manga's continuity. We had quite a few discussions regarding this in the past, so I should know. Not to mention that at best, it's the story that Toriyama wrote that belongs to manga's continuity, and not what Toei made of that in BOG ...

I'm claiming that the statement that Beerus is the strongest in the history of Z is contradictory, thus absolutely unreliable.
It was completely reliable when it was made, at which point it was serving its purpose of hyping up the film and keeping us in the dark on a big reveal. Even now, it is ...

So "I thought up the story as if it were a continuation of the manga when it was in serialization " translates to "the story belongs to the manga continuity"? Not in my book. To me it sounds like "I thought up a story imagining as if I was continuing the manga", which says nothing about it being ...

I'm claiming that the statement that Beerus is the strongest in the history of Z is contradictory, thus absolutely unreliable.

Sure you can. It's called marketing. Billing Beerus as the strongest being in the history of Z creates hype for the film, and the reveal with with Whis is supposed to leave you with an interesting surprise at the end after you become invested and are looking forward to what will come next.
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SS3/SSG Vegeta, SS2/SS3/SSG Vegetto.

Beerus was also described in promotional material as the "strongest in the history of Z" up till that point, which would include Vegetto and exclude the Whis reveal (as that was meant to be a surprise at the end of the film).
You cannot exclude a confirmed DB characer. If Beerus is strongest in Z ...

JulieYBM wrote:

hleV wrote:Toei was and is bad at its job.

That is confusing consistency for quality.

They provide us with none of that.

Where does Toriyama say that BOG/ROF are part of the manga continuity? "Writing it as if the manga was still in serialization" does not translate to "Writing it as part of the manga continuity".

Yeah...

It took Vegetto transforming and fight Gohan-Buu for a couple of minutes to finally realize he's thousands of times stronger...
I don't have to explain this. It is there. Vegetto says it himself. One does not necessarily catch up with such a tremendous power. Boo, with Gohan and Piccolo ...

Toei was and is bad at its job.

Lol calm down bro
I am absolutely calm. You calm down.

It's not uncomforting, it's obviously just ridiculous.
Yes, it is obviously ridiculous to you.

And if I'm correct, the guide says it's like multiplication, not just flat out multiplication.
It says that Potara fusion is as tremendous as ...

There's no reason for him to go out of his way to avoid it. If he's thousands of times stronger, he would literally just stand there and tank it. And that was after he realized how strong he is.
No, that's just what you say, unable to back it up by anything.

The stronger you make him, the more ...

Evidently, usefulness beats evilness by Dragon World standarts, that's why Vegeta continued to be accepted by everyone even though he has always remained evil and dangerous.
But he wasn't useful for anyone except the villains.
Wasn't or not, according to Enma he may have been of use, which took ...

Well, let's first acknowledge the fact that a Saiyan's tail fur (and Ozaru fur) is brown, as opposed to their black head hair color. So if a Saiyan's black hair turns blonde when going SS, it is not the same as a Saiyan's brown hair turning blonde, so it is not fair to say that "it makes more sense ...

It links to http://www.kanzenshuu.com/index.php for me. Can you hover the link and copy its location to show us what do you mean?

Vegeta had never saved more people than he killed. That is fact.
And for those he saved, it was usually the result of him being a selfish prick rather than a protector. He never really did anything for the sake of others (with a possible exception of his family, and even the most evil people can ...