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I have already explained why he is not SSjin 2 though. His SSjin 2 doesn't have one bang to begin with. Toei didn't know how Goku would look as a SSJ2 at that time as he hadn't had appeared in the manga yet (or am I misinformed?), so it's possible that they just gave him one bang, like SSJ2 Gohan's...

It's a fact that Cell Games Z Fighters are far stronger than in M8 based on the things I have said and their appearance. It's not even debatable. Not even Cell Games Vegeta or Trunks fought a Cell Jr in the Manga when M8 was made. While I agree with you, one could say that only Goku's power is equa...

But... I'm sure I can see Super Saiyan 2 Goku & Gohan there... :wtf: Maybe the air is pushing their hair, but their definitely don't look like their normal Super Saiyan hair. To me it looks the opposite - totally like SSJ hair (for Goku at least), just with 1 bang. I have already explained why ...

Gonstead wrote:

This shot of Gohan only ever appeared once. Are you honestly saying you think he looks like this for the entire fight?

When did I say it? t never appeared once though.

Haven't read much of the thread yet but I wanted to point something out about your comparison between the first 2 Gohan pictures. The second one is a pretty bad example to use since It makes him appear older than he should be at that point. In fact, he doesn't even look really any different between...

There are not "Resting Super Saiyan" & "Mastered Super Saiyan" forms. It's just one form called Super Saiyan Full Power . When the user reaches this state, he can suppress his battle power to his base form levels, the strain is extremely minimized, and the personality of the...

I think the lack of Aura for most of the fight is a better point. Against Cell he has the aura at various points but against Broly its just when he first transforms and when he gets energy from the others. The difference in the eyes just seem like expressions to me. When Goku is actually fighting i...

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQP_HY-xxxPnj3PhgFNb5v8zjId9AE-BA-47t048nUzc7myB6OXxg https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRCy7O1oHcrqFPdyDL2WjopxerVjZju0YoSszlSo9DpAx7UIYg9 They have the same eyes. This Goku who rested in his SSjin form which is lower than 50%...

I think the lack of Aura for most of the fight is a better point. Against Cell he has the aura at various points but against Broly its just when he first transforms and when he gets energy from the others. The difference in the eyes just seem like expressions to me. When Goku is actually fighting i...

There are not "Resting Super Saiyan" & "Mastered Super Saiyan" forms. It's just one form called Super Saiyan Full Power . When the user reaches this state, he can suppress his battle power to his base form levels, the strain is extremely minimized, and the personality of the...

LSSjin Broly is just equal to Cell Games FPSSjin Goku. M8 just refers to the Perfect Cell Arc after all. We know M8 LSSjin Broly is based on USSjin 2 Trunks but better. The better form of USSjin 2 is the FPSSjin, M8 was even revealed just before Goku went all out vs Cell. Now, M8 Vegeta who is based...

Heh, this reminds me of a video I made once. And just for the record, Goku has "serious eyes" with the closed outline here: http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8/screenshotsdbzmovie8_871.jpg :? Because he gains his FPSSjin power li...

Are you saying that SSJ Goku, when powered up, can't make an expression with round eyes? That doesn't make much sense to me. Nope, but Cell Games FPSSjin Goku's eyes are different and more serious and if you look at the Cell Games so FPSSJIN gOKU NEVER HAD THOSE EYES LIKE IN m8. tHAT'S WHY tRUNKS F...

Heh, this reminds me of a video I made once. And just for the record, Goku has "serious eyes" with the closed outline here: http://images.myfavoritegames.com/gallery-db-z-gt-x/Screenshots/Movies_and_Specials/DBZ_Movie_8/screenshotsdbzmovie8_871.jpg :? Because he gains his FPSSjin power li...

Goku has round eyes as a SSJ in the 8th movie so he was a FPSSJ: https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTo8QeQ2x6q9uJhj0z3Kk76knD5vaKVtGQ5klh6zsS8PUEzZ682 Round eyes is a trait of FPSSJs and haven't been introduced until Goku & Gohan went out of the ROSAT. Yeah, I just explained i...

I'm reeling from all that info :crazy: , but there's one thing you mentioned that immediately caught my eye: Let's start by some facts. Movie 8 was released in March 6, 1993, between episodes 176 to 177, which means movie 8 was released before MSSJ Goku and the Cell Games were revealed in the Anime...

Beji wrote:Cool breakdown, ill give it my 2 cents when its in the right spot?( in universe discussion, no?)

What?

I will start with Movie 8. Let's start by Movie 8 Z Fighters. Movie 8 Let's start by some facts. Movie 8 was released in March 6, 1993, between episodes 176 to 177, which means movie 8 was released before MSSJ Goku and the Cell Games were revealed in the Anime, so how the can they be Cell Games leve...

Broly is overrated. M8 LSSjin Broly would get stomped by Perfect Cell. Broly faced MUCH weaker Z Fighters. That';s a fact which was already proven a long time ago. the Cell Games never even existed. M8 LSSjin ~ Cell Games FPSSjin Goku is implied. M10 LSSjin Broly got a massively Toei Haxed Zenkai an...