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by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:44 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..
Replies: 13
Views: 266

Re: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..

Broli is not what you would consider a mental-healthy character. He has good moments in his current version, but still he doesn’t act in a reasonable way when he fights. If his mind were sane, we wouldn’t see that dramatically altering his appearance.
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?
Replies: 19
Views: 335

Re: Has Moro Arc Base Goku/Vegeta Surpassed Everyone From DBZ?

No one can give you an accurate answer for this question, since base form doesn’t see relevance in the manga. So far, it seems Base Goku is weaker than Frost, so it depends on how strong do you think Frost is, which is also unclear.
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super Saiyan and Ultra Instinct combined?! (spoilers)
Replies: 12
Views: 977

Re: Super Saiyan and Ultra Instinct combined?! (spoilers)

But to be fair, Omen doesn't change Goku's appearence. And UI itself grants him silver hair just like the angels. So even if it's a transformation, one can still assume that no visual change is needed for Beerus (using Omen) or Whis (who already have silver hair). It does change a little bit. His e...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:40 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30457
Views: 1481524

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

But there's no "perfect fusion" apart for the right way to do it, as far as the franchise bothered to explain. Do it wrong and you get a botched version of the fusion fighter. The dance needs the fusees to be equals, including in strength, but the potara do not. So with Goku and Vegeta being equals...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:57 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30457
Views: 1481524

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

If we agree that Broly is, at least, on par with Beerus, then yeah. Gogeta wiped the floor with Broly in Blue, and this arc happened after Broly's movie, so Vegito had to be equal to Gogeta in all forms. Honestly I don't think they gave much thought to those things, since Jiren being all casual and...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:53 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Super Saiyan and Ultra Instinct combined?! (spoilers)
Replies: 12
Views: 977

Re: Super Saiyan and Ultra Instinct combined?! (spoilers)

Goku attains a different look when he uses Ultra Instinct probably because the state of mind of a Saiyan has direct influence on their appearance. It shouldn’t be possible to combine Super Saiyan with it, but shonen franchises like to play with these ideas.
by Hugo Boss
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:47 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..
Replies: 13
Views: 266

Re: Realization about DBS Broly's Super Saiyan form..

Broli has an abnormal level of anger. You can’t really compare him with the other Saiyans. The grief he felt when his father was killed probably affected even more his already twisted mind, which from his perspective is the breakpoint to become a Super Saiyan.
by Hugo Boss
Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 30457
Views: 1481524

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Thani wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:20 pm
For Cumber, right?

The crazier thing about this is that, if we follow proper scaling, that makes Cumber stronger than both Broly, Gogeta and all Gods of Destruction.
If Vegetto is stronger than those people, which we don’t know yet.
by Hugo Boss
Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:55 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 1053

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:17 am
Vegeta did get a powerup during the ToP in the manga.
And on top of that, this is the same aura that he uses against Moro. So, he can use that powered-up version of SSGSS in the manga as well.
by Hugo Boss
Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:11 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 1053

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:40 am
They also said that Broly 'might be' stronger than Beerus, but is Broly > Jiren?
There isn’t a confirmation yet, but he is hyped as the strongest enemy Goku has ever faced. It’s difficult to tell without a proper match.
by Hugo Boss
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:03 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 1053

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

An arm wrestling match is totally different from a real fight. So far, neither Goku nor Beerus have mastered Ultra Instinct, but it’s logical to assume Beerus is closer to that point than Goku is. So, considering everything that Goku managed in that state, it’s possible that Beerus can defeat Vermo...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 1053

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

An arm wrestling match is totally different from a real fight. So far, neither Goku nor Beerus have mastered Ultra Instinct, but it’s logical to assume Beerus is closer to that point than Goku is. So, considering everything that Goku managed in that state, it’s possible that Beerus can defeat Vermou...
by Hugo Boss
Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?
Replies: 44
Views: 1053

Re: Can Vegeta Defeat Beerus In A Fight Now?

We have no idea how strong Vegeta is right now. In the anime, he managed to defeat a God of Destruction level fighter, but couldn’t defeat Jiren, who is also at that level. Maybe even Jiren can’t defeat Beerus.
by Hugo Boss
Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11237
Views: 719781

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

SS Gogeta from Dragon Ball GT would probably be stronger than SS Gogeta from Dragon Ball Super, so he might be able to rival Omega Shenron.
by Hugo Boss
Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:42 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is being attracted to a Dragon Ball character considered weird?
Replies: 74
Views: 2227

Re: Is being attracted to a Dragon Ball character considered weird?

When did I say it was a bad thing? I only said it was 'weird' and what's wrong with being 'weird'? Not everyone is wired the same way and if people give you shit for standing out well then fuck em. They don't make or break you. Just don't wave that shit around like a flag and expect nobody to judge...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Oct 22, 2019 11:23 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is being attracted to a Dragon Ball character considered weird?
Replies: 74
Views: 2227

Re: Is being attracted to a Dragon Ball character considered weird?

True. But at the same time it's not something to be proud of either and revealing it to random people is a good way of being judged (luckily, we on Kanzenshuu don't discriminate). These things are something you would talk to parents/guardians, close friends, professionals, etc. about. Why you think...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:01 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 34421
Views: 1384469

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Merus vs. Jiren
by Hugo Boss
Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:53 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Is being attracted to a Dragon Ball character considered weird?
Replies: 74
Views: 2227

Re: Is being attracted to a Dragon Ball character considered weird?

There is nothing wrong with bejng attracted to fiction. True. But at the same time it's not something to be proud of either and revealing it to random people is a good way of being judged (luckily, we on Kanzenshuu don't discriminate). These things are something you would talk to parents/guardians,...
by Hugo Boss
Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:10 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power
Replies: 113
Views: 4142

Re: Information on Super Saiyan 4's power

Do we have a Japanese scan of the segment? To make sure it's not made up\mistranslated by the Japanese-to-Chinese translator? (I would comment on the Chinese-to-English translation... but I do not know Chinese and have to trust the translator) There is one, but Vegetto EX already covered it . The t...
by Hugo Boss
Mon Oct 21, 2019 7:45 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Did Goku Unintentionally Sabotage The Strength Gains Of The Z Senshi Against Cell?
Replies: 9
Views: 632

Re: Did Goku Unintentionally Sabotage The Strength Gains Of The Z Senshi Against Cell?

Goku’s point is that if you put your body and mind in too harsh conditions for an extended period of time, they will start get weaker instead of stronger. Vegeta is always more tense than Goku, which makes him not as strong as he could if he get some good rest. That explains why Goku’s method is mor...