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by Hugo Boss
Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:50 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33640
Views: 2082852

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think it’s only natural that the story moves in the direction of stronger opponents, though I have yet to see how Ultra Instinct can be surpassed.

On a side note, this hints at Goku being stronger than Broly, at least, but not quite stronger than the gods.
by Hugo Boss
Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:15 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33640
Views: 2082852

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think the most difficult part of Grand Kaioshin’s story to make sense is that his god power is apparently enough to feed Goku back to Ultra Instinct, and yet that same power didn’t warrant his victory against the evil Boo and Moro millions of years ago. (In Moro’s case, he had to use a very powerf...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:30 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Gohan's original Buu Saga concept
Replies: 8
Views: 285

Re: Gohan's original Buu Saga concept

It’s a fan-created work based on an old Toriyama’s outline of Gohan for Boo Arc.
by Hugo Boss
Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:43 am
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11582
Views: 931556

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

It’s difficult to tell. Even Base Goku performed better than SSBlue Vegeta due to his quickly read of Hit’s movements, and probably due to Hit underestimating him as well. Actually, it’s only after Goku uses SSGod that he affects time-skip efficiency and it’s claimed to have surpassed Vegeta’s SSBlu...
by Hugo Boss
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:28 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33640
Views: 2082852

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I have saw an interesting theory a few months ago (I believe it was from Ponta ). Basically, Ultra Instinct is such a large pool of power that can be maneuvered differently depending on how trained the user is. It could be possible that Goku has about the same powerlevel when uses Ultra Instinct aga...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Dec 26, 2020 12:06 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11582
Views: 931556

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Probably not strong enough to defeat the Boo they are supposed to defeat. It’s also debatable if even SS3 Gotenks could defeat the evil Boo. Yea, but that wasn't what my question was about. I want to know how strong they are in Base, if Gotenks is like > SSJ Vegeta and Vegetto > SSJ2 Goku, somethin...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:56 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11582
Views: 931556

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

how strong are actually Gotenks and Vegetto on their base forms? Probably not strong enough to defeat the Boo they are supposed to defeat. It’s also debatable if even SS3 Gotenks could defeat the evil Boo. On a side note, I don’t know if anyone posted here, but we had two new sets of the Bandai chi...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Are we going to see a timeskip in Chapter 68???
Replies: 35
Views: 1393

Re: Are we going to see a timeskip in Chapter 68???

Is English your mother language? In this very chapter we saw how the words several and few were used to make the reader understand how the events played out. Galatic Patrol celebration happens several days after the battle against Moro, while Beerus arrived at Zeno’s palace a few days earlier, but a...
by Hugo Boss
Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:06 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Are we going to see a timeskip in Chapter 68???
Replies: 35
Views: 1393

Re: Are we going to see a timeskip in Chapter 68???

GodVegetto91 wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:19 am
Hugo Boss wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:51 pm
It was said “a few months later”. The “several days later” portion is still during the Galatic Patrol Prisoner Arc, including Beerus’ punishment and Galatic Patrol celebration.
That’s what I’m saying.
No, you said “several months later”, which is technically longer than “a few months later”.
by Hugo Boss
Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:02 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33640
Views: 2082852

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

73-Moro’s power is composed by Moro decrepit state’s power + OG73-i’s power (Prime Moro). That’s why he is stronger than ever. And when he copies Merus, he can do every move Merus can do, including Ultra Instinct form, no matter in which state Merus was.
by Hugo Boss
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33640
Views: 2082852

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Doesn’t OG73-i copy everything someone can do or I’m missing something?
by Hugo Boss
Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Are we going to see a timeskip in Chapter 68???
Replies: 35
Views: 1393

Re: Are we going to see a timeskip in Chapter 68???

It was said “a few months later”. The “several days later” portion is still during the Galatic Patrol Prisoner Arc, including Beerus’ punishment and Galatic Patrol celebration.
by Hugo Boss
Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 37642
Views: 3029674

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I’m just a little confused by why Majin Boo isn’t retaining the memories of the Grand Kaioshin right now. When he fought Moro, those memories seemed to be very strong. Maybe this is a hypnosis collateral effect?
by Hugo Boss
Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:58 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35580
Views: 1910267

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

You also have Goku summoning the power of Super Saiyan God in his base form when he destroyed the energy ball created by his kamehameha and Beerus’ hakai. Cabba’s summoning the power of Super Saiyan when fighting Vegeta. I believe they are raising their energy gradually until they have enough to com...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:06 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35580
Views: 1910267

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

I see it more like Goku was already summoning his Super Saiyan Blue power when he was getting up, which may explain why 17 and 18 weren’t able to follow him.
by Hugo Boss
Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:07 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 37642
Views: 3029674

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I think Granola might be a former angel. Based on what exactly? His hair and eyes look like an angels, and at this point for anyone to be significant enough to have an arc built around them they will need to be on the same level as an angel, so it would make sense. Also the way he dispatched the 73...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:06 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 33640
Views: 2082852

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Well, if Goku couldn’t finish off Moro on his own, I guess Moro is arguably better than Goku? They were equally matched in combat prowess, but Moro’s magic required a helping hand.
by Hugo Boss
Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:57 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 35580
Views: 1910267

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

If you mean their ace can’t beat even 18, I agree they are weak. But the point is about how Piccolo compares to 18. If Piccolo is ranked about Base Goku’s level, who is weaker than Super Ribrianne, which has an even stronger form (giant), by extension he is weaker than 18. Unless you subscribe to t...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:48 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11582
Views: 931556

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Yes, there is that too... So, more or less a 3-to-5-fold advantage makes me accept that scene a little easier, which also makes Super Saiyan useful and not too bloated for Gogeta.
by Hugo Boss
Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:52 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 11582
Views: 931556

Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

I believe it’s also debatable wether (DB Super) Broli’s Super Saiyan works the same as the regular Super Saiyan or not, given its special treatment. He clearly has no problem with dealing with 2 Super Saiyan Blue , but it’s odd that Golden Freeza (more or less on that level) can withstand that much...