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by Hugo Boss
Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:08 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I’m not seeing how it was established that Beerus has been surpassed, there isn’t a single conclusive statement about it. Only achism from Shin and Goku. Let's say Shin and Goku were wrong and that Beerus was holding back in every instance we've seen him fight another GoD. How much stronger do you ...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:58 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

-People lie to themselves everyday, they believe things that aren't true, what's so weird about that? Vegeta lied to himself most of his life. Who wants to accept they are no longer unrivalled? -You are assuming Beerus is so fast that Moro can't even see that, like they couldn't be momentarily out ...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: How Would Moro Arc Piccolo Fare In DBZ?
Replies: 19
Views: 344

Re: How Would Moro Arc Piccolo Fare In DBZ?

It’s not really clear how strong Piccolo is, but Moro didn’t took him lightly when he was stomping Vegeta and everyone else. He didn’t even let Piccolo charge his light grenade. Perhaps that would be kind a nuisance to him? I don’t know. And Gohan wasn’t doing much against Saganbo either, honestly I...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:10 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

[...] I know he pretends to not be fazed by UI, Broly or Moro and seems like he is above all but I think that's just it, he is pretending. So introducing a head-on retcon now would be plain awful writting as in fuck everything established up to this point, let's pump this cat up so he can fight Gok...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:24 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

[...] we have no indication that Moro has fought the likes of a God of Destruction, but out-of-universe the authorial intention is there that at FP Moro is meant to be understood to be on roughly the same level as Beerus, Jiren, Broly, SSB Fusion, et al. Perhaps, but chapter #64 doesn’t pass me thi...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:21 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Goku saw Beerus and Champa fight a bloody battle in the anime. I don’t recall that. I just saw a little squabbling. I just explained it, cause they weren't even introduced into the story as they came after So, a non-explanation is your answer. why would Akira have Goku say that line if it's for shi...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Fisherman , you are mixing the movie continuity and the manga continuity. In the movies, Goku never saw Beerus fighting seriously, more like 70% of his power, as Whis said at the end of Battle of Gods. Do you think manga, anime and movie share the same continuity? Why? And you still haven’t provide...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Sep 18, 2020 10:37 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 35043
Views: 2729395

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

I have the impression Goku doesn’t want to execute Moro as a Galatic Patrolman, but rather defeat him in a proper fight, as an Earthling warrior, making him lose consciousness or something like that. That’s how Goku does things.
by Hugo Boss
Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:43 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Fisherman , you are mixing the movie continuity and the manga continuity. In the movies, Goku never saw Beerus fighting seriously, more like 70% of his power, as Whis said at the end of Battle of Gods. Do you think manga, anime and movie share the same continuity? Why? And you still haven’t provide...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:55 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So, in resume, it’s understandable that Toriyama’s ideas since Battle of Gods could have changed, but so far the story references that at some point Beerus and Goku will probably have an even fight, right? Right. In the manga continuity, which is where the Oracle fish reiterates that prophecy, Goku ...
by Hugo Boss
Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:06 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

the oracle fish can't include characters that haven't been thought of yet. Why? He is just reinforcing the same prophecy that was told in the Battle of Gods story arc and, after that point, Golden Freeza and Goku Black appeared. Now Goku is completing Ultra Instinct. If this is the deadline, this i...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

your trying to argue that broly isn't apart of the project despite broly not existing at the time the statement was made. I’m not sure how that makes the point invalid. The more the story progress the stronger Goku and Vegeta will get, and it’s implied that at some point both will be equally matche...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:53 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

They even comment on Beerus having to use his full power, and by the end he was bruised, beaten and bloody. This is one of the rules of their test fight, but it doesn’t mean Beerus showed everything he got. Broly has been claimed in novel, guide and movie. So that's clearly false Last time Goku fou...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:22 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think you can work around Goku’s assessment of Broli and Beerus’ strength, because Goku doesn’t know how strong Beerus truly is (Beerus purposefully kept his true strength hidden from Goku). And there is that prophecy. So, between Goku and Oracle Fish, I think the latter is more reliable right no...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:45 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I think you can work around Goku’s assessment of Broli and Beerus’ strength, because Goku doesn’t know how strong Beerus truly is (Beerus purposefully kept his true strength hidden from Goku). And there is that prophecy. So, between Goku and Oracle Fish, I think the latter is more reliable right now.
by Hugo Boss
Wed Sep 02, 2020 8:35 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

My Dragon Ball Super powerlevel list: Grand Priest: 2,000 Whis: 1,500 Beerus: 1,000 Blue Gogeta [Broly]: 970 UI Goku: 970 UI Omen Goku: 900 Blue Goku [Broly]: 830 Blue Goku [ToP]: 820 Blue Goku [Zamasu]: 810 FPSS Broly: 960 SS Broly: 850 Iraki Broly: 800 Jiren [LB]: 970 Jiren: 950 Champa: 990 GoD To...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:34 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Ultra instincts Omen isn't all that powerful compared to Blue
Replies: 12
Views: 454

Re: Ultra instincts Omen isn't all that powerful compared to Blue

ZombieVito wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:55 pm
So is Piccolo Blue tier on the anime since he did this?
His attack was probably approaching the level of gods, since Gohan and the Namekians were at that level themselves.
by Hugo Boss
Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:03 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Ultra instincts Omen isn't all that powerful compared to Blue
Replies: 12
Views: 454

Re: Ultra instincts Omen isn't all that powerful compared to Blue

MechaTrunks wrote:
Thu Aug 27, 2020 7:40 am
Ultra instincts Omen is Above SSJB2 Vegeta which is above SSJB Goku.
It was. SSBE is ahead now.
by Hugo Boss
Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:51 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 32733
Views: 1898863

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So here's a question -- how do others interpret Hit's pressure points style in the anime? Do they operate outside of power levels? Could Hit stop the heart of anyone if he wanted to or strike at some fatal region with success? I think there is a room for how much those attacks work on Dragon Ball. ...
by Hugo Boss
Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:33 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Ultra instincts Omen isn't all that powerful compared to Blue
Replies: 12
Views: 454

Re: Ultra instincts Omen isn't all that powerful compared to Blue

I don’t think those are fair comparisons. 1) Saganbo - Goku was just testing Ultra Instinct Sign. After that little skirmish, he concluded Super Saiyan Blue would be enough. 2) Moro - In his previous form, he easily blocked Super Saiyan Blue, while Ultra Instinct Sign was more or less even until Mor...