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by Hugo Boss
Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:09 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?
Replies: 20
Views: 349

Re: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?

Not really. For example: Goten: 2 Trunks: 2,5 Goku: 50 Vegeta: 50 Goten x Trunks: 2x2,5 = 5 Applies SS3 multiplier: 5x400 = 2,000 Goku x Vegeta: 50x50 = 2,500 Applies SS multiplier: 2,500x50 = 125,000 In retrospect, if Goten and Trunks get closer to the level of their fathers, their fusion gets two ...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:51 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Piccolo isn't necessarily suggested to have surpassed Goku and Vegeta as Super Saiyans in the Buu arc (or what was once the case in Super.) Piccolo actually beat SS2 Gohan in combat strength and managed to trick even Ultimate Gohan. So, I don’t think those SSs have a chance against this version of ...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:11 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

You are on point in that. The AxB logic, as far as I remember, only works on the fusions between Goku and Vegeta, because they make a perfect balanced fusion. Kibito and Shin don’t have that chemistry. Maybe not even Goten and Trunks. But I think you can get the idea that since Goku and Vegeta are ...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:30 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: SSJ God was supposed to be “a being that surpasses everything”
Replies: 44
Views: 619

Re: SSJ God was supposed to be “a being that surpasses everything”

It's common for Toriyama to go with a premise and then flip it on its head. The point of BoG's ending is despite all that power Goku obtained, it doesn't surpass everything and there are still stronger opponents to fight, much to Goku's relief. Besides, it still surpasses almost everything. Freeza,...
by Hugo Boss
Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:16 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Since fusions work on the AxB logic, you can reconcile SSGod being stronger than Super Vegetto from Dragon Ball Z era and weaker than Super Gogeta from Dragon Ball Super era, because their base forms got massively stronger. Even the AxB rule doesn't seem to be completely true. For one, other factor...
by Hugo Boss
Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:11 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Since fusions work on the AxB logic, you can reconcile SSGod being stronger than Super Vegetto from Dragon Ball Z era and weaker than Super Gogeta from Dragon Ball Super era, because their base forms got massively stronger.
by Hugo Boss
Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:08 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?
Replies: 26
Views: 462

Re: Objectively, How Much Stronger Is UIO/MUI Than SSJB?

There is no definitive answer. If you go by the anime, since kaioken x20 on top of SSBlue accomplishes nothing against Jiren and the completed Ultra Instinct closes that gap and more, I suppose it’s in the range of far beyond 20-fold. Perhaps like 100-fold.
by Hugo Boss
Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The only information we have is that 7-Moro-3 may be more powerful. Unless we see it how can we be sure? Again, Vegeta is at the very least comparable to Goku, but he probably doesn't have more strength that power stressed Omen. He simply performs better against Moro due to Spirit Fission. This is ...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:23 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The recent chapter makes very clear that 73 Moro is stronger than Prime Moro (by Goku’s words) and SSBE Vegeta is stronger than UIS Goku (Moro, Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo all agree about this). I don’t understand the reluctance in accepting it, since Goku will probably surpass Vegeta and Moro in the n...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:12 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

This new Moro pretty much one-shotted current Vegeta, something I don’t see Jiren or Broly accomplishing with such ease, even if they could both take on Ultra Instinct sign. I’m inclined to think he is at least on their league, if not stronger.
by Hugo Boss
Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:42 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I'll admit I haven't read the chapter but from seeing Geekdom's review it looks like Vegeta needed to weakened Moro and just trading blows wouldn't have worked. Even so could Moro eat Omen? If Moro can eat evolution and cant eat Omen then Vegeta would be a better meal than Goku. Why didn’t you read...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:19 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

miguelnuva1 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:51 am
Omen has more Raw power but it is hard to use.
Moro implies Vegeta’s power is greater.
by Hugo Boss
Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:04 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Are the Buu Saga SSJ2's (Goku and Vegeta) much more powerful than SPC or Cell Games SSJ2 Gohan?
Replies: 9
Views: 271

Re: Are the Buu Saga SSJ2's (Goku and Vegeta) much more powerful than SPC or Cell Games SSJ2 Gohan?

Why these threads are popping up so much recently? You can probably ask these questions in this thread.
by Hugo Boss
Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:41 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Would Perfect Cell had remained more powerful if he didn't create those Cell Jr.'s?
Replies: 6
Views: 219

Re: Would Perfect Cell had remained more powerful if he didn't create those Cell Jr.'s?

He has two humans with infinite stamina inside him. He probably didn’t lost significant energy by doing that.
by Hugo Boss
Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:28 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?
Replies: 20
Views: 349

Re: Is it logical to think that SSJ3 Gogeta would be around Buutenks' level?

If Vegetto didn’t need SS3 to be ahead of Gohan-Boo, I don’t think Gogeta would be different. There is no reason to assume one is stronger than the other.
by Hugo Boss
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:00 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Koitsukai wrote:
Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:53 pm
Could this new Vegeta technique work against a genki dama?
He dispersed that giant ball of collected energy. Probably yes.
by Hugo Boss
Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:13 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The issue is if you take earlier chapters while Vegeta was training into consideration, the technique is actually heavily suggested to work on anybody and drain anyone's ki if need be. It just happens to be especially effective when dealing with fusion or absorption. Vegeta made a complete explanat...
by Hugo Boss
Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:40 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

All in all Vegeta is still GoD level. Anyone from that realm of power is worth more than any planet Moro has ever eaten. But I question whether he can refer to his energy's "quality". As in, a Vegeta with the spirit control has a "better" energy to give than a worn out Omen Goku (even if power Stre...
by Hugo Boss
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:36 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I just would like to know how you interpret this piece of dialogue: Moro: “I do commend you for elevating your power to such heights” ... “You will make for my finest meal yet”. Hmm All in all Vegeta is still GoD level. Anyone from that realm of power is worth more than any planet Moro has ever eat...
by Hugo Boss
Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:44 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 31818
Views: 1786597

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I just would like to know how you interpret this piece of dialogue:

Moro: “I do commend you for elevating your power to such heights” ... “You will make for my finest meal yet”.

Hmm