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FortuneSSJ wrote:

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Why the heck is Frost not in his first form?

I don't think he can revert.

He can. It was said twice in the Champa arc.

I'm confused. Why is the «why didnt Goku use it before» still an issue? Have people forgot that he was weakened by using the Mafuba and could barely use Blue when he first faced Merged Zamasu alone, or did I miss something? I have not read the official translated chapter trough, so please tell me. ...

I'm confused. Why is the «why didnt Goku use it before» still an issue? Have people forgot that he was weakened by using the Mafuba and could barely use Blue when he first faced Merged Zamasu alone, or did I miss something? I have not read the official translated chapter trough, so please tell me.

Goku surpased Merged Zamasu in both versions. Not in the anime even when he broke his arms using the KHH against Zamasu & using the kaioken he told Vegeta that they don't stand a chance against him unless they fuse,Vegeta also said that Zamasu was taking his time and toying with them and could ...

ChiefWamsutta wrote:Ughhhh, this manga is so bad at powerscaling. I stopped reading it awhile ago because of this reason. It is also taking so long to move on from the Goku Black arc.

How is worst at powerscaling than the anime? Apart from SS2 Vegeta vs Black everything makes sense.

The super haters are still acting like obnoxious brat that are complaining with out knowing the context, this doesn't surprise me at the slightest this chapter is really interesting, I'm mean no one predicted this, no one This is the DB fandom, what do you expect? We (yeah, I think I'm also like th...

Toyotaro is a Goku fanboy. It makes no sense Goku and Vegeta couldn't master Blue when they trained for 3 years in the ROSAT. Those 3 years of training they did amount to exactly nothing in the manga. The fact Goku and Vegeta also have to master SSB in the manga contradicts RoF (which was completel...

This Mastered SSB is turning out worse then Rage. Rage at least was the result of Trunks's pent up emotional turmoil, so he didn't have it all the time and could have just killed Black, and at least has Vegeta's Mutant SS2 and his own Mastered SS2 to give the form some kind of bare bones build up. ...

If Goku had this "mastered" all along, the only take away is that he's a piece of shit who could have ended the fight straight away. But I doubt it was planned. Got to make Goku look strong dammit It was planned. As I said before it fits perfectly with Goku never facing Black and the Mafu...

Am I the only one that wanted a normal Merged Zamasu without the halo? I have seen him that way in merchandising, and for some reason I prefer him like that, at least with his anime design. I would like to get a manga variation trough. Not only for Merged, but also for other chatacters. It won't hap...

I don't see why the heal things it's still an issue. Trunks can only use it once, Vegeta himself said it. Thats why he only healed Goku. I agree about it not having any type of foreshadowing trough.

I pray that Goku didn't have the ability to master Super Saiyan Blue before fighting in the Future Trunks arc. Because if did, he's a piece of shit. Because he knew could have ended this arc the second he and Vegeta went to fight Goku Black and Zamasu for the first time, but chose not to. And it ma...

SSJB Goku holding his own against Goku was definitely in the outline because it happens in both the anime and manga. And like I said before, there is no fucking way in hell you can make sense of that kind of plot-point without killing the power scaling and/or retroactively making the previous event...

BTW, I wonder if Toriyama's outline has something as nonsensical as Goku Blue being on par with Merged Zamasu. Considering he also wrote something as nonsensical as Goku Black's base being around SS2/3 tier in base yet having a Rosé form yet being defeated later by Vegeta, I would not be surprised....

I pray that Goku didn't have the ability to master Super Saiyan Blue before fighting in the Future Trunks arc. Because if did, he's a piece of shit. Because he knew could have ended this arc the second he and Vegeta went to fight Goku Black and Zamasu for the first time, but chose not to. And it ma...

BTW, I wonder if Toriyama's outline has something as nonsensical as Goku Blue being on par with Merged Zamasu. Considering he also wrote something as nonsensical as Goku Black's base being around SS2/3 tier in base yet having a Rosé form yet being defeated later by Vegeta, I would not be surprised. ...

from herms:''Turns out, manga-Trunks can use Kibito-style healing powers because he trained as Kaioshin's disciple''. Wait wut, Why he didn't heal Goku and Vegeta in chapter 20, this thing is becoming a mess,I just can't wait for a genkidama sword or shiruken, because I think the ending teased this...

Whats the problem with Trunks having a limited healing power? He can only use it once. 1)Because only Dende and some of the gods have shown to have this power. 2)It came out of nowhere with no foreshadowing. 3)He could have used his healing powers before. 1) And? He has learned from a Kaioshin just...

zamasu121 wrote:So apparently Trunks had healing powers all along, and Goku mastered ssb, so all this time he was stronger than black........

Whats the problem with Trunks having a limited healing power? He can only use it once.

So could Goku use this 100% SSB form since the start of the arc? It seems like the most logical conclusion. Thinking about it, Goku never fought Black, amd instead faced Zamasu in battles more based in strategy and tecniques than in raw power. He later uses the Mafuba, which forces him to use SSG an...