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by SupremeKai25
Sat Mar 16, 2024 8:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3931050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

A version that didn't have god ki,ssjg, Ssjb etc forms Goku didn't knew existed at the time and nothing repeats or mentions Beerus superiority over fusion A version that didn't have any of those forms was still too weak to pose any real challenge to a Beerus who was holding back 90% of his real pow...
by SupremeKai25
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:53 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3931050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So people think current Gogeta or Vegetto can't beat Beerus? :shock: No, they cannot. This is the only counter to Beerus' power: https://i.ibb.co/TYZxg2C/Screenshot-2024-03-16-at-23-49-20-Dragon-Ball-Super-Chapter-26-Mangakakalot.png Immortality. Nothing else can counter Beerus. That is why no one ...
by SupremeKai25
Sat Mar 16, 2024 6:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3931050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Super Hero doesn't feature or even mentions fusion so it's not really relevant here. Indeed, Fusion is irrelevant, because Fusion remains weaker than Beerus. Beerus was introduced as a character who is above even Fusion. That is the function of his character. It was so in BoG, and it was so in ever...
by SupremeKai25
Sat Mar 16, 2024 12:00 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3931050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Super Hero doesn't feature or even mentions fusion so it's not really relevant here. Indeed, Fusion is irrelevant, because Fusion remains weaker than Beerus. Beerus was introduced as a character who is above even Fusion. That is the function of his character. It was so in BoG, and it was so in ever...
by SupremeKai25
Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:45 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3931050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

and weaker than Vegetto, Claimed by Supreme Kai, who is not a reliable or valid narrator. From a Meta perspective, Toyotaro in 2017 most certainly didn't have the authority to decide who is stronger than Beerus, considering how the entire Super storyline is about mortals trying to reach Beerus' lev...
by SupremeKai25
Sat Mar 16, 2024 9:38 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 76013
Views: 8762150

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

jjbgood wrote: Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:30 am You do realise that this thread is about the continuation and possible announcements for Dragon Ball Super and not about Blu-ray content or praise for the animation quality of old arcs... right?
"Discussion" is literally in the thread's name.
by SupremeKai25
Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:32 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: "Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread
Replies: 76013
Views: 8762150

Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Toei as a whole seems to have learned from early DBS. Like, say what you will about the storytelling in the Universe Survival arc, but I think one thing that can't really be denied is that the production did indeed manage to hold together throughout. What Toei did with ToP doesn't get enough praise...
by SupremeKai25
Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:07 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Is Super on its way out?
Replies: 44
Views: 3864

Re: Is Super on its way out?

No. Considering how Toriyama's name is still on the Moro and Granolah arcs and he designed the Heeters, I find it nigh-impossible for the Super Anime to never animate the Moro and Granolah arcs. Impossible. They are amongst the last of Toriyama-approved works. Also, Iyoku, President of Capsule Corpo...
by SupremeKai25
Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:39 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread
Replies: 110
Views: 11074

Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 103 - Official Discussion Thread

Is that it? Oh well... So much for the Beast, for it to be reduced to nothing and get destroyed by True Ultra Instinct. WHERE'S THE BEAST, LIKE, WHERE IS THE BEAST! WHAT THE HELL IS THIS! It was supposed to be a Piccolo-centric movie. Gohan was added only because the average Dragon Ball viewer is a...
by SupremeKai25
Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:33 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3931050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Anyone who is not Zamasu/Zeno/Angels gets oneshot by Hakai.

Your fave is not one of those? Too bad! He gets oneshot by Hakai.

It's simple...
by SupremeKai25
Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:39 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 267
Views: 15457

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

The average viewer only cares about this: https://i.ibb.co/DrdbHLX/Screenshot-2024-03-13-at-15-31-34-Dragonball-Super-Opening-1-Ch-zetsu-Dynamic-Japanese-4k-You-Tube.png https://i.ibb.co/Lt1hmQc/Screenshot-2024-03-13-at-15-31-56-Dragon-Ball-Super-Opening-2-Limit-Break-X-Survivor-English-Dub-Adu.png...
by SupremeKai25
Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:41 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator
Replies: 150
Views: 15940

Re: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator

I want Toei to animate at least the Moro saga, because Moro is one of the more memorable characters from Super. With how much Super recycles nostalgic DBZ villains like Frieza for the nostalgia bait, original villains like Zamasu and Moro stand out all the more. Also, it will be welcomed to finally ...
by SupremeKai25
Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:39 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1076
Views: 81813

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

Yeah this is just moving goalposts. You said "Goku Black kept impaling people with not a drop of blood in sight". That is what you said. You are wrong. There are already enough problems to criticize about Super (as with any series, by the way, not just Super) without inventing non-existen...
by SupremeKai25
Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:33 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"
Replies: 267
Views: 15457

Re: The end of "Akira Toriyama canon"

Curiously enough, I've noticed the DBS anime is much more well received than the manga, and we know the anime had less involvement from Toriyama than the manga. Even with all of its flaws, shit, I think I prefer the anime, too. Because the average viewer doesn't care that Toriyama had less involvem...
by SupremeKai25
Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:28 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39974
Views: 3931050

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Someone on Reddit pointed out that Android 17 would've given Beerus a better fight than SSJG Goku in Battle of Gods and I can't stop laughing :lol: An inevitability of power-creep. It was a problem in DBZ too. Remember how it took like 100 episodes for Frieza to be defeated on Namek? Android 18 wou...
by SupremeKai25
Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:56 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1076
Views: 81813

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

This is wrong. We do have drops of blood being shown when Black impales Vegeta and Trunks individually: Only one of those four images has any blood you don't have to squint to see, and the blood in the Trunks picture is so faint that it barely even looks like blood (it looks more like he's coughing...
by SupremeKai25
Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:56 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)
Replies: 1076
Views: 81813

Re: Dragon Ball Daima (2024)

I also don't see why some people need blood and gore to enjoy a Dragon Ball series. TBF: I think the censoring robs some of the fights of their intensity. Like, I’ve always hated how every recreation of the “Full Nelson!” sacrifice censors Piccolo’s attack going through Goku. And I do think it does...
by SupremeKai25
Tue Mar 12, 2024 5:13 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator
Replies: 150
Views: 15940

Re: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator

Yeah, I could see Shueisha being more willing to greenlight a return for Super now. I'm kinda conflicted about it, I've wanted to see them arcs adapted but it will be hard to act as if they won't be just milking the "In honour of the great Akira Toriyama" tagline a bit longer. That is an ...
by SupremeKai25
Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:35 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator
Replies: 150
Views: 15940

Re: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator

So basically the problem with the Super anime is that it was just so popular and successful that it overshadowed every other product? I can't say I'm surprised. Moreso Shueishia apparently feeling threatened by it, the fact Super is an anime first and foremost doesn't help. Sure Shueisha will still...
by SupremeKai25
Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:18 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator
Replies: 150
Views: 15940

Re: Dragon Ball Without Its Creator

So basically the problem with the Super anime is that it was just so popular and successful that it overshadowed every other product?

I can't say I'm surprised.