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Still doesn't seem to work. Piccolo didn't insta-squash Salza with the first hit (Salza shrugged off a kick and deflected two generic ki blasts, one of which was enough to kill Doore who according to those numbers is somehow stronger than Salza...) and was actually forced to exert effort to survive ...

Assuming that he defeated Freeza in a different way is pretty baseless. Cooler's subordinates being that weak just can't work, given that Salza easily curbstomps Gohan who is at 200,000 and briefly fights evenly with Piccolo who is over a million. And Goku wasn't having trouble with him, he was comp...

Well, aside from all that stuff I said above, Cooler in his true form says stuff like "Hmph, you do as well as I expected. Enough to have defeated my brother." after Goku fights evenly with him, indicating the Goku he fought is at least as strong as Frieza. That Goku then gets at least twi...

That wasn't a dub line? Because pretty much everything else says Cooler in that form was stronger than Frieza, so it would seem kind of weird if that were the case. Or like you said Cooler just never did power up, since he still thought that anyone who could fight even with his final form was strong...

Ah, okay. I was wondering where 140 million came from, as I had only been told that on some forums and had only seen a scan of the final form level. But still, considering Cooler is stronger than Freeza in that form 140,000,000 seems reasonable. They should be taken with a grain of salt, but if the ...

Guess that means Dabura is just Perfect Cell-tier, not SPC.

I guess that explains it about Dabura, but it seems kind of weird that they'd label him a Cell-level guy if he's so much weaker... though they could've been talking about Perfect Cell and not Super Perfect Cell, even though you'd think that they'd specify if they were. No one says "these guys a...

Cooler vs pre-ROSAT Super Saiyan Trunks Dabura vs non-Majin Vegeta Mostly I like these match-ups because I just want to hear the answers to two questions: One, does anyone still really believe that Cooler was weaker than Super Saiyan Trunks, who was about equal to Namek Goku? If so, why? It seems li...

I have him way below the Android Arc Super Saiyans, but still. Jesus. If he liked Piccolo so much maybe he should've kept him relevant past the mid-Cell Saga. Anyway, here I go. Just a reminder for everyone: Mecha Frieza's Arrival Mecha Frieza: 140,000,000 (100% full power), 70,000,000 (surpressed s...

Just throwing it out there as a guess. It's my fanon at least, because there's no way Piccolo could've gotten that powerful that fast...

Hey, new guy here. I got some power estimates for the Android Saga that are really different than some other people's (scaled a bit higher, because I actually take that V-Jump number for Cooler as accurate) and would like to see what other people think of them. But before I post them, I have a quest...